Any Given Sunday (1999)
Any Given Sunday Review | Born to Watch Podcast
Our Any Given Sunday Review takes the Born to Watch boys back to 1999 for Oliver Stone's chaotic, testosterone-fuelled dive into the world of professional football. Featuring Al Pacino, Jamie Foxx, Dennis Quaid and peak Cameron Diaz, Any Given Sunday promised everything a sports movie fan could want. But does it still hold up, or is this one all style and no substance?
Whitey, Dan and special guest Will strap on the shoulder pads and revisit Oliver Stone's divisive NFL epic. What starts as a love letter to sports movies quickly turns into an examination of shaky cameras, over-the-top editing, giant egos and one of the most exhausting viewing experiences the boys have tackled in a while.
Al Pacino brings his trademark intensity as veteran coach Tony D'Amato, desperately trying to hold together the Miami Sharks while battling a ruthless owner, rebellious players and a rapidly changing game. Jamie Foxx bursts onto the scene as Willie Beamen, the backup quarterback who suddenly becomes a superstar, while Dennis Quaid delivers a solid performance as ageing veteran Cap Rooney.
Along the way, the boys discuss why Oliver Stone seems determined to assault your eyeballs with every editing trick imaginable. From subliminal gladiator imagery to frantic camera work and changing film stock, Whitey wonders whether the movie is trying too hard to be profound. Dan compares it to Natural Born Killers and argues that Stone's style overwhelms the actual story.
The conversation naturally branches out into memories of 1999, drunken phone calls, encounters with Elizabeth Berkley, backup quarterbacks becoming heroes, and whether there is a more pressure-filled position in sport than an NFL quarterback.
There's also plenty of appreciation for the stacked cast. James Woods shines as the dodgy doctor, LL Cool J delivers one of the biggest dickheads in sports movie history, and Lawrence Taylor proves real athletes can occasionally act. Meanwhile, Cameron Diaz splits the room, with Whitey refusing to give prime Diaz a quickfire vote despite the objections of everyone else.
As always, the boys go deep into the IMDb ratings, box office numbers and critical reviews before throwing around comparisons to Varsity Blues, Office Space, American Beauty and other classics from the legendary year of 1999.
But the biggest question remains. Is Any Given Sunday a genuine sports classic, or is it simply a two-and-a-half-hour migraine wrapped in slow motion and Kid Rock?
One thing is certain. Whether they're discussing football strategy, Oliver Stone's obsession with gladiators or the horrors of professional athlete fashion, Whitey, Dan and Will once again prove that no movie is safe when it lands on Born to Watch.
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Unknown Speaker (0:00): You know, when you get old in life, things get taken from. I mean, that's that's that's part of life. But you only learn that when you start losing stuff. You find out life's just game in inches. So is football.
Unknown Speaker (0:18): Now what are you gonna do?
Whitey (0:30): Sports movies are the best. Even bad ones can be pheromonal to a male. And when they're done well, it's a spiritual experience. Tonight, we're again in the year 1999 for Oliver Stone's testosterone filled Any Given Sunday. A movie based on a fictional NFL team based in Miami, owned by Cameron Diaz, coached by Al Pacino, quarterbacked by Dennis Quaid and Jamie Foxx.
Whitey (1:20): Sign me up. And there's no better team of armchair sporting experts than the ones we have tonight. Dan on the land. How are you?
Unknown Speaker (1:34): Since when am I fucking second chair?
Whitey (1:36): Well, we'll oh, well, I'll tell you what. You probably this could be the last time you are.
Dan (1:42): Fuck. Yeah. I'm alright. I'm busy. Don't really have time for this fucking shit show, but anyway, I'm here.
Dan (1:54): I just want to say that 1999 was when myself and the G money were cutting absolute fucking sick on the travels. This is peak the travels. We are located in The UK. We are going ham on the piss. I'm doing some of my best work ever.
Dan (2:13): The G slotting tens work at a shit job that he never fucking shut up about. It was so boring. And he used to tell about us every day, we're like, cunt, it sounds like you print things out for a fucking living. Will you shut the fuck up? Awesome.
Dan (2:28): Yeah. Good time to be alive.
Will (2:30): 1999 in a nutshell.
Unknown Speaker (2:33): 02/2000. Wilbur, you're back.
Unknown Speaker (2:37): Yes. I'm back. Thanks.
Unknown Speaker (2:39): I said I didn't call you Will the workie tonight. Oh.
Unknown Speaker (2:42): He's not workie. He's he's
Unknown Speaker (2:46): way better
Unknown Speaker (2:46): than the g. He's encroaching on Damo. He's he's not in the rarefied air of me, and he's probably almost as good as you.
Unknown Speaker (2:55): Fucking. Have a listen
Unknown Speaker (2:57): to him. He's good, isn't he?
Unknown Speaker (2:58): He's good.
Unknown Speaker (2:59): This is disinterested Dan. He's just abusive.
Unknown Speaker (3:02): Yeah. Yeah.
Whitey (3:03): And the thing is is is I I thought I'd be nice. So I'd give him a movie that I know that he he sort of watches quite regularly. If he did I wanna watch it. It's fine. He didn't have to watch it.
Unknown Speaker (3:13): Let's cut to the let's cut to
Unknown Speaker (3:14): the chase afterwards. It's fine.
Unknown Speaker (3:17): It's fine.
Unknown Speaker (3:19): Alright. Well, welcome, Will. Thanks. Yeah. Thanks.
Whitey (3:22): Thanks, Dan. Thanks, Matt. Okay. We are, of course, born to watch the movie podcast where we don't take the movies or ourselves too seriously. Unless, of course, it's the Snobs report, and Damo is off tonight, so there'll be no Snobs report.
Whitey (3:38): But there would have been one tonight. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Just say the words.
Whitey (3:42): I can step in. I'll give you one. I'm sure well, you know, we we just might do that. We just might do that. We'll start with overs and unders.
Whitey (3:49): We've done a lot of nineteen ninety nine movies in the last six months. It is commonly known as the greatest cinema movie of all time. I don't agree.
Unknown Speaker (3:57): Yeah. But
Whitey (3:58): but it is twenty seven years ago. This is a movie for me that I've probably not watched a heap of times. Now Will, 1999 movie, overs and unders of five. Yeah. Tell me about it.
Whitey (4:16): I'm under. Are you one?
Unknown Speaker (4:19): Point two five? Yes.
Unknown Speaker (4:25): Which point, tooth five did
Unknown Speaker (4:26): you watch again?
Unknown Speaker (4:28): The first The dick scene? Yeah. Basically.
Unknown Speaker (4:31): You got repeat. You just got to the big snuffle up against soulmate with his massive foray, and you're like, this is cool. Fuck. It's good to see perps finally getting some, not even side dick, like full dick dick action. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (4:45): This is usable dick. This is usable dick, though.
Dan (4:48): Perps, this is you. Do you do you prefer the turtleneck or are you a helmet guy, the fireman? What what curious minds wish to know. Reach out.
Will (4:57): Oh, yeah. No. I'm I'm definitely a turtleneck. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (5:00): And and it's fun. All the they didn't they
Dan (5:02): don't brutalize the children anymore, so it's quite common. If you've got a handsome young fellow and you drag him from the DF and take him home and and you want chop ups, then you're gonna see a turtleneck.
Will (5:14): Yep. It's not as in vogue.
Whitey (5:16): No. No. It's not. Well, you you have to give an excuse. You have to think up of some excuse there.
Unknown Speaker (5:21): I can't just say, dad's got one. I want I want him to have one. Like, not not good enough. Yeah. That's right.
Unknown Speaker (5:26): Dad's a fireman. Yeah. Exactly.
Whitey (5:28): Yeah. Okay. Well, when I when I One more thing.
Dan (5:32): One more thing. Yeah. When you're looking at a fireman's fireman dick, do you think about aliens and alien the movie?
Unknown Speaker (5:42): Me, personally? Or
Unknown Speaker (5:43): which which part? HR Giger, Giger, Giger. Yeah. All his all all his his his variations on the alien alien. I see a lot of dick.
Whitey (5:54): There's a lot of doodles in HR Gergey's work. Yeah. He's quite phallic. Very phallic.
Unknown Speaker (5:59): Super phallic. Super phallic. I mean, you're trying to individualize he's into dicks. Like, that's just overthinking it. But yeah.
Unknown Speaker (6:06): Yeah. Okay. I think he is. I think he is.
Unknown Speaker (6:09): Yeah. But,
Whitey (6:10): you know, like, you draw what you see. Yeah. You reap what you sow.
Unknown Speaker (6:16): You run like you sow.
Whitey (6:18): You cover what you see as as Hannibal Lecter said it in silence of lamps. That's right. Cover what we see.
Unknown Speaker (6:24): Well, there you go, Perfs. That was for you. That that shower scene, good stuff.
Unknown Speaker (6:28): I want Perfs to I want Perfs to call in a review.
Unknown Speaker (6:31): Yeah. I wanna hear Perfs
Whitey (6:32): for sure. Gotta do a report, to be honest. She did send a message this week. She she listened to our competitions, the rewatchables version of Basic Instinct. And she then questioned about the full frontal penis.
Whitey (6:45): And I said, well, you know, haven't you listened to our version of Basic Instinct? And she goes and then she got a bit defensive. Ah. So I think she has, but
Unknown Speaker (6:53): it was
Whitey (6:53): a little while ago, Basic Instinct. It was a very good one. Yeah. It was our first truly erotic thriller, and we had a lot of fun with it. You did.
Unknown Speaker (7:00): Old triple blurt. You. Yeah. Yeah. I had a lot of fun with it.
Whitey (7:04): So I I was anticipating one. I didn't think this would be a movie that you would have seen. No. So I'm looking forward to hearing what you say through twenty twenty seven eyes. Dan, same question.
Whitey (7:15): Overs and unders are five. Do you remember first seeing it?
Dan (7:18): No. I've I've seen it heaps though, way more than five. Uncle Nug Nug, a good friend of the show, he had it on DVD. So I would always if I was hung his balls wherever uncle Nug Nug ran at his house, I would watch it, and I've seen it lots.
Whitey (7:34): Yeah. I didn't see this at the movies. I don't know why I didn't see it at the movies, but I have seen it. It's pretty
Unknown Speaker (7:41): pretty up in the box office. I don't know that it was quite a critical darling. It didn't.
Unknown Speaker (7:45): It's basically I only just
Unknown Speaker (7:47): made top 40 in '99.
Whitey (7:49): Well, when we get to the ratings, you're gonna see how it was how it fed.
Unknown Speaker (7:53): It was yeah.
Whitey (7:53): I didn't see it at the movies, which I find odd because it's it's a sports movie, NFL movie. I thought it would have, but I didn't There wasn't a lot else to
Unknown Speaker (8:02): do in '99 when you weren't at footy training, was it?
Whitey (8:05): There was not. And, you know, you guys were cutting a swathe, and and I was not. But but look. I'm I'd be in excess. I'd be probably around 10.
Whitey (8:17): I'd seen this. And That's still pretty low for you. It is low. And and watching it this time, I think I understand why. I think I think I said to Morgz today that if you have epilepsy, you can't watch this movie.
Unknown Speaker (8:33): Don't get me You literally can't watch this movie. I I
Whitey (8:36): found I found it to be horrifically edited. Yeah. Yes. And it was And the
Dan (8:43): subliminal stuff as well. Like, it Yeah. On record is saying he used subliminal imagery of gladiators. We fucking get it all over Stone. You compare it to gladiators.
Unknown Speaker (8:53): Wow. Okay. Fucking what an insight.
Whitey (8:56): But the thing is is and then I started to think about Oliver Stone as a filmmaker, and then I started to think about when did that start? Because Wall Street, he doesn't. Platoon, he doesn't. And I really think it's it's it's almost born on the July 4 that he starts to turn and have this subliminal spiritual undercurrent through a lot of his movies for the next ten well, almost up until now because you think you've got the doors, the doors with the shaman and and the and the Indians.
Unknown Speaker (9:31): You've got
Whitey (9:31): this one. You've got JFK, which is not there's no subliminal stuff, but there's a lot of erratic cuts. Nowhere near as much of this. Yeah. And, like, it cuts to black and white.
Whitey (9:42): It cuts to color. It cuts to grain.
Will (9:45): And then it just seems that it becomes he becomes a little bit style over substance a bit. Yeah. It's like he's it's like he's trying to achieve or like he it's like he's he's being subversive and trying to bring across this subliminal message, but the the subject matter doesn't warrant it.
Unknown Speaker (10:06): It doesn't. And this is the thought. It's just the opinion
Dan (10:08): of all these themes as well. It's like fuck them. Okay. That's this is not who who do you think's watching this film? We all know what fucking NFL is.
Dan (10:16): Move on.
Whitey (10:17): Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And not only that, not only does he try to sub hit a subliminally with the gladiator thing, but he they say it about 10 times. Yeah.
Whitey (10:25): Modern gladiators. Modern gladiators. Oh, the gladiators of our time. We're watching Ben Hur. Like, for fuck's sake, like
Unknown Speaker (10:32): A more subtle a subtle piece was to put Charlton Heston in there as the commissioner. Fuck. That's awesome. If I
Unknown Speaker (10:39): saw that,
Dan (10:39): I'll be like, oh, okay. Well, there's a there's an obvious payoff. That's fantastic. But to beat us over the head with it, and he changes the film stock so that we're looking at different, different stock the whole time and yeah. I don't know.
Dan (10:51): Way over over styled. But story, yeah, let's talk more about that.
Whitey (10:56): Yeah. We will. And I've gotta say, I think the way that he films the action is very clever because it's so close. It's so in your face that you can't see if they're Wesley Snipes. Right?
Whitey (11:09): You can't tell if they're terrible because the the framing is so short. And Yeah. I saw I quite like that. I thought that was covered, but, again, there's so much going on.
Unknown Speaker (11:18): I was I was exhausted as if I was playing the game. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (11:22): Yeah. Was so much going on. Do you
Dan (11:23): know what it reminded me of, Widey, really a seminal time in our life, when I watched you on the front paddocks at Waringa in fifth grade playing playing fly half, And I was standing in my Lycra next to my road cycle at the time. The speed, the contact, the collisions, the frantic pacing, that's what that game just reminded me of. Like you had no time
Unknown Speaker (11:46): to What was your lateral movement like, Matt? Did you are you a bit could you cut?
Unknown Speaker (11:50): It was all hands. It wasn't yeah. There were there was no shimmies. He was using he was using what his mama gave him.
Unknown Speaker (11:56): I ran that was I was one
Unknown Speaker (11:58): of this, and then I'm going this way.
Whitey (12:00): I was one of the very few tens to actually do legitimate hit ups.
Unknown Speaker (12:04): Yeah.
Whitey (12:05): Well And look. And look. Dan's Dan is Dan Dan's being mean here, but I only played two games at ten. It was only because I was coming back to playing, and I was like, I don't like, you know how I play in the forwards? I wanna have a crack at ten.
Whitey (12:19): And I played pretty good, to be honest. Played pretty good. Anyway, here we go. Here is the back of the VHS cover. Life is a contact sport, and football is life.
Whitey (12:36): And when three time Academy Award winning filmmaker Oliver Stone and a dynamic acting ensemble explore the fortunes of the Miami sharks in any given Sunday. Al Pacino plays in battle coach Tony Damato facing a full on blitz of team strife plus a new marketing savvy owner who's sure Tony is way too old school. An injured quarterback, a flashy bullheaded back headed QB, a slithery team doctor, and a running back with an incentive laden contract also provides stories that zigzag like diagrams diagrams in a playbook. It adds up to Stone's most electrifying film in years, a dazzling spectacular, Peter Travers, Rolling Stone.
Unknown Speaker (13:30): Yeah. Okay. What do they pay Peter Travers for that
Whitey (13:32): one here? Yeah. He gets I think he's on a retainer. He gets paid no matter what. Mhmm.
Whitey (13:37): Look. You know what? It I don't know how you could say any more than that. Yeah. It's it's a difficult movie to describe because, basically, it is the day to day running of an NFL football team.
Whitey (13:53): Right? Coach and owner don't see eye to eye. Yeah. And there's some dickheads in the team.
Unknown Speaker (14:02): Yeah. And there's some egotistical players
Whitey (14:04): Mate, I've got a note, and my note says, oh, so so the players and the wives are fuckwits. Yes. Right? That was my note. Right?
Whitey (14:16): Yeah. So it's I don't know. I played sport my whole life, and I've played with some wonderful people, and I've played with some absolute muppets. Right? But that's sport.
Dan (14:29): Yeah. You also you you played with a lot of people from Narra Bean, so your tolerance for absolute shitbags is higher than those. So I mean, most of your teams would be filled with at least six or seven of these filthy little fuckers. It was I think it's amazing that you didn't get hep a most times you fucking packed down.
Whitey (14:51): Look. You know, Dan, I did spray Dettol quite considerably around the around the
Dan (15:00): last remember your pregame warm up quite quite it it involved a lot of cough syrup, a lot of pseudoephedrine, and
Unknown Speaker (15:09): a couple red blood sugar. And some red blood sugar. Until I nearly had a heart attack on the film and I was out on the field and I was like, that was it. I'm going clean, cap. Anyway, let's let's watch the trailer.
Whitey (15:24): Strap yourselves in.
Speaker 0 (15:41): I've sweated blood for these men. Giving up my wife, my children for these men. I've given up everything I have for these men. Game is all that matters to me. Cost, it's pure.
Speaker 0 (15:54): It's saved. Life is.
Speaker 4 (16:01): Any given Sunday, a legend will fall.
Unknown Speaker (16:05): I need you to lead this team. Tony, I'll be there for you.
Unknown Speaker (16:10): I am not resigning a $7,000,000 a year, 39 year old quarterback no matter how great he was.
Unknown Speaker (16:17): Can't help build this franchise, which you benefited from? Don't you give up on me. You're like a son to me, Cap. I'll fight for you till the day I die. Any given Sunday,
Speaker 4 (16:29): a hero will rise.
Unknown Speaker (16:32): Make me a believer.
Speaker 4 (16:34): And on any given Sunday Oh,
Unknown Speaker (16:40): what's up?
Speaker 4 (16:41): Tradition will be broken.
Unknown Speaker (16:43): He's changing
Unknown Speaker (16:44): the plays and just does what he might.
Unknown Speaker (16:46): You run the plays, I call.
Unknown Speaker (16:47): I've been warming the bench the whole time I've been in the pros. I don't plan on going back. I am QB. You're king in
Unknown Speaker (16:54): your own mind. He may sell a lot of t shirts, this Kieran,
Unknown Speaker (16:58): but he's
Unknown Speaker (16:58): carrying his team up on.
Unknown Speaker (17:00): Well, then you hold it together. Fuck it off. Why the hell do you think my father put me in charge of bullheaded moron? You got old. No intensity.
Unknown Speaker (17:23): No victory. Where the hell is your intensity, Tony?
Speaker 4 (17:34): Any given Sunday, life is a contact sport.
Unknown Speaker (17:46): Kid Rock, Preview.
Unknown Speaker (17:47): That preview makes it look like a better movie than it is.
Whitey (17:53): Well, there's there's a there's a lot of there's a lot of the high action bits there, but there's a lot of waffle in between those bits.
Unknown Speaker (18:06): Like How many times did the guy say, any given Sunday?
Whitey (18:09): On any given Sunday. Yeah. Look. I generally love movies when we get the name of the movie in the script. This got a bit annoying.
Whitey (18:21): I think it was said three or four times. I think Cameron Diaz really annoyed me in this movie. And I know she's supposed to, but she really annoyed me to the point where she doesn't get a vote in quick fire because of how annoying she was. Wow. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (18:41): I mean, I don't know.
Unknown Speaker (18:43): Hey. Cameron Diaz in a prime, and you you're gonna give her
Unknown Speaker (18:46): hard Diaz. I'm passing. I'm passing.
Unknown Speaker (18:48): It's one of the few things in my good column
Unknown Speaker (18:50): I'm passing. Is prime. Prime Diaz? Yeah. Yeah.
Whitey (18:53): It was a very small window.
Unknown Speaker (18:56): That was it.
Whitey (19:00): Critical thinking. Alright. IMDb rates any given Sunday 6.9 out of 10. Certified fresh oh, sorry. Not fresh.
Whitey (19:14): 51% on the tomato meter, 73% on the popcorn meter, 0% on the cryometer. I'm not gonna give too much away, but I think one of them is too high. I think two of them are too high, and one of them is probably just slightly low. I think it sits somewhere between five and six and a half I was gonna say.
Unknown Speaker (19:42): Yeah. This movie,
Whitey (19:43): I think. And that's before we discuss, and I'm not I I am known to change my scores or my feelings, but this is a this is obviously a well made film, but it may be too much for me. But we'll see. We'll see. IMDb equals 6.9 movies we have reviewed with that rating, Step Brothers.
Whitey (20:07): The wedding singer. Step Brothers.
Unknown Speaker (20:09): Oh, cruelly underrated, both of those.
Whitey (20:13): Mate, Step Brothers, on my golf trip last week, one of the guys I was away with quoted us about Step Brothers. He said, it is the best first twenty one minutes of any comedy movie ever. And I looked at him, he looked me and he pointed at me and I said, nice quote.
Unknown Speaker (20:32): Old school's really like that too. The the first third of old school is fucking awesome, and then it
Unknown Speaker (20:37): just Awesome.
Dan (20:37): Falls away terribly. But
Whitey (20:39): yeah. Correct. Correct. Wonka, the new Wonka, Rocky three, Rocky four, and Conan the Barbarian. Oh, wow.
Whitey (20:49): Now now, honestly, I would watch well, Wonka, no. But every other one of those movies, I would watch before I watch any given Sunday again.
Unknown Speaker (21:01): Yeah. Believe it.
Dan (21:03): Rocky's my I'm a massive Rocky three guy, and I love sports movies, and we've always loved sports movies. But the more I think of it, Rocky turning into this intellectual and it just I don't know. I I think I think it's weak.
Whitey (21:17): It's a it's a massive leap. I love mister T in it. I think mister T in it is great.
Dan (21:22): Mister T is a good villain. Yeah. I just why why did he suddenly turn? He was fucking brain damaged and now he's like a stockbroker. It's ridiculous.
Whitey (21:31): He went he went he went from being the most damaged he was in Rocky two. Yeah. Like, he became even dumber from Rocky one to Rocky two. Yeah. And then he became, like, super smart in Rocky three and Rocky four.
Unknown Speaker (21:43): Sure. And then he got the the head noises and and he was gone. Yeah. Yeah. And then he's sort of
Will (21:47): normal again in Creed. You know, there is that phenomenon that that occurs when you get a head knock and you become become a savant. You know? Oh, hear about the lady that
Whitey (21:57): Talked Chinese? Yeah. That I am sorry. Is one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
Unknown Speaker (22:08): Actually learn the language. No.
Unknown Speaker (22:10): She just talks in
Unknown Speaker (22:11): a She just talks in accent.
Unknown Speaker (22:13): It is. Have you seen that, Morgz?
Unknown Speaker (22:15): No. But I cannot
Whitey (22:17): Oh my god. I'm gonna find it. I'm gonna find out how to send it to you. But this woman was in a coma, and she woke up, and she talked in a Chinese accent.
Unknown Speaker (22:27): But, like, basically, like a racist way to speak, like, Chinese. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (22:34): Just sat in room.
Unknown Speaker (22:35): Rude doing Asians.
Unknown Speaker (22:36): Yeah. Exactly.
Unknown Speaker (22:37): Well, you know, you know, you got Bobby Lee, the the the that podcast with Bobby Lee and his mate when he talks about, Bobby, mom. Bobby, mom. Like, that's that's effectively how she talks. Bobby, mom. Bobby, mom.
Whitey (22:49): Bobby, mom. Mom. No. It's one of the best things you'll ever see. It's so funny.
Unknown Speaker (22:55): Bad friends,
Unknown Speaker (22:56): That's Bad friends. Yeah. Bad friends.
Unknown Speaker (22:57): Friends there. Very fun.
Whitey (22:59): Okay. We've got a couple review here. I'm just gonna run out on my own and go we're gonna go with the good first. Roger Ebert, the great man from the Chicago Chicago sometimes. The movie alternates between sharp, observant, dramatic scenes and MTV style montages and incomprehensible sports footage.
Whitey (23:23): It's a miracle that underlying story survives, but it does. And that's
Unknown Speaker (23:28): the good review. Incomprehensible is what what's Do do you know what said that to me.
Whitey (23:34): But but exactly. But you know what would I think? I think the incomprehensibility of those scenes helps the movie. Okay. I think it because it takes because you could be super critical.
Whitey (23:45): If everything's from bird's eye and you look down and everything's a wide shot. Yeah. You can see what's going on, but it's so close proximity. Yeah. You're taking you're taking out of it.
Whitey (23:56): You know what I mean? Like, you can't actually then judge what's going on on the extremities and stuff. Yeah. So there's no bright part people hitting the cardboard swords. Yeah.
Whitey (24:06): It's all in your face, fast moving. It's look. It's it's erratic. That's a good call because it's
Unknown Speaker (24:11): a sports movie and it's full of Hollywood actors playing sportsmen in it. Correct. And so there's going to be some bad sporting prowess.
Whitey (24:19): Well, the the the guy that plays Shark LaVey
Unknown Speaker (24:22): Except the deck.
Whitey (24:22): LT. So Laurence Taylor is one of the greatest NFL players to ever do it. Yeah. And he did good. Actually, he liked that.
Unknown Speaker (24:30): He was actually a good actor. Was. Yes.
Unknown Speaker (24:31): He's very good.
Whitey (24:33): Now we've got a bad review here. Steven Rosen of the Denver Post. Any Given Sunday is the latest example of this year's worst movie trend in which hyper stylist directors attempt to force their way through flawed, poorly developed stories by showing their stuff. And I think that's a bit on the mark. Yeah.
Whitey (24:58): I think this is this feels like Oliver Stone going, hey. Watch this. Yeah. Look at you know what would work here? I reckon this would work here.
Whitey (25:09): Yeah. It remind us I think I said it more today. This movie reminds me a lot of natural born killers. Right? And I don't know if you've seen it, but Woody Harrelson, Julia Lewis, and it was a script written by Quentin Tarantino, and it was sold, directed by Oliver Stone who changed it a lot.
Whitey (25:27): And there's again, it's the old, you know, subliminal imagery and a lot of cuts, different film stock. It it's super erratic. You know, there's one scene where it becomes a game show, Rodney Dangerfield, her dad, and it's just out there. Yeah. And this movie straight away, I
Will (25:46): was going, this just feels like natural born killers. At least you could tie the two together that they are somewhat battling lunacy. And and Yep. And the and the the cut scenes and everything kind of made you feel a little bit disjointed. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (26:04): So it was a bit, you know
Whitey (26:06): Was that the world they're in?
Will (26:07): Yeah. Yeah. So there was purpose to it. With this bullshit was just a a football movie that made me feel a bit queasy.
Whitey (26:17): Johnny Bull said the same thing. Johnny Bull said that he got dizzy. It did. So he did his homework and then wrote that he got dizzy. Amazingly I'd
Dan (26:26): get dizzier than most with that motion sickness feeling that That's what was thinking of you. Jason Bourne to, the Bourne Identity or the Bourne Supremacy or whatever it was completely fucked me when I was hungover.
Unknown Speaker (26:38): Yeah.
Dan (26:39): But this I didn't get it as much from this. So I I yeah. I didn't didn't feel and I am usually susceptible to that.
Will (26:46): This one scene where Beaman and the coach are, like, chatting at each other on the field and the freaking camera just won't stay still.
Whitey (26:54): Mate, it's like But even a pan even like a pan was shaky. Like, it was there was nothing smooth No. About the filmmaking. And I don't know. I don't know.
Whitey (27:04): I I hope the cameraman doesn't have Parkinson. Yeah. Well, that's what it felt like. It felt like everything was very jittery. Ordinary people.
Whitey (27:20): We'll start at the top. Al Pacino, Tony Damato. Obviously, we've done him in Scarface, which I thought he was great in. That was in Scarface '82, I think. Yeah.
Whitey (27:34): There's a lot of time between '82 and '99. Yep. In saying that, I actually think Pacino does a pretty good job in this movie. He doesn't overact as much as what he normally would. There was no I don't think there were many, like, great ass Yeah.
Whitey (27:52): Sort of moments. And I I look. He I think he was pretty believable as the coach battling you know, he'd been there a long time, doesn't wanna change. Thinks he knows best. I and and and I quite actually like his his arc is the one that I can buy.
Whitey (28:11): Yeah. Everyone else's, I struggle a little bit with, but his arc is the one that I can buy. Thoughts on on Tony D?
Will (28:19): Yeah. I I mean, you know, a big theme throughout the movie was Cameron Diaz's, you know, her her part, you know, telling him that she's that he's lacking in intensity and he's lost his fire and all those sorts of things. And you see that, but the flip side of it is is that he keeps a fairly cool head even in moments where he's like super challenged one on one by his place going, you're fucking me over. You're you're letting this idiot offensive lineman coach over here or whatever he is making calls. This quarterback over here is making his own calls, and I'm the one who's being affected.
Unknown Speaker (28:55): And he's just like, it's alright. Relax. It's okay. Alright. We'll sort it out.
Unknown Speaker (28:59): But it's like he's he's an old head in the game. Yeah. And the the things that he's being the things that are his drawbacks in the current state of the game as it is, the things that are hurting him in the game are the same things that are probably keeping his team combined or together because he's not going off the
Whitey (29:18): He he's the one calm constant throughout the movie. Like That's right. And I think there's a lot of quiet moments with him in this movie. Like, a lot of stuff with Anne Margaret. A lot a lot of the once the yelling's over with Cameron Diaz Yeah.
Whitey (29:30): And they're talking like when he says, you know, you gotta win one first. Yeah. About the ring. Yeah. You know, she tries to be nice, and he's just like, fuck you.
Whitey (29:38): Yeah. Like, you know, so, Dan, thoughts on Tony D?
Dan (29:43): Yeah. I'm I'm very torn, but I wonder what he adds that someone else couldn't have done a lot better. I I wasn't as convinced that it it wasn't Vincent Hannah, just a little bit less Coke than than Vincent Hannah has in Heat. I just saw it very same same. And, yeah, on this viewing, I kind of thought more about who else could have played it and who would have come across as a football coach more to me than a five foot one Al Pacino in in 1999.
Whitey (30:11): I I gotta say they nailed the photo of the caricature on the wall. Fuck. They didn't take any prisoners with that. No. He looks terrible in that caricature.
Whitey (30:24): Yeah. Yeah. Alright. Look. Obviously, the godfather, godfather to Scarface, son of a woman won an Academy Award for it, and he so I didn't I didn't mind that forever.
Dan (30:34): I didn't mind that dynamic between him and Cameron Diaz. I thought they really got a good handle on he's the old school, maybe a bit too sentimental. And I didn't get villain vibes from her as much as more realist vibes that it's a fucking business and it's not making any money, so we've got to change things. And that was whilst it was they were in direct contact. I don't I don't think she was necessarily evil as the villain, more just No.
Unknown Speaker (31:01): I don't think anything she was saying was wrong.
Whitey (31:03): No. She wasn't. No. It's more delivery.
Unknown Speaker (31:06): Yeah. Yeah.
Whitey (31:06): Like, the the first ten or the first ten minutes, that first scene goes for fucking far too long. Yeah. But she's they make a mistake and she's on the phone talking about how can we sack this coach and who who was on the market? Who can we get? Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (31:18): I'm like, shit. That's rough. She is
Unknown Speaker (31:20): ruthless. You talk about she's
Unknown Speaker (31:21): just parallel between Willie Beaman and the chick. Like, they're both sort of having the same character arc. The quarterback, Willie.
Unknown Speaker (31:30): Yeah. Willie. Yeah. Willie.
Unknown Speaker (31:31): And then and then the owner of the team, Cameron Diaz
Unknown Speaker (31:34): is Agniachi.
Unknown Speaker (31:35): Agniachi, whatever her name
Unknown Speaker (31:36): At the end, she definitely looks at football and she's stoked and yeah.
Whitey (31:40): I hate the end of this movie, but we're gonna get there. And we're get there. Okay. Cameron Diaz was saying peak Cameron Diaz, Christina Pagniacci or Paganini as Willie Beaman calls her.
Unknown Speaker (31:54): Miss Paganini.
Whitey (31:56): She she she I think her performance is good because it's very against type from what she's done pretty much before or since. She's always sort of that Well, as as
Dan (32:12): Will and I often talk about offline, she was the inspiration for Anna Faris' character in Lost in Translation, just a complete ditzy actor. Will and I often, when we're discussing it and talking about our eternal love for Sofia Coppola, will comment on that and sometimes bring up any given Sunday and say, no. Actually, when she's playing against type, she does have the ability to transcend that ditzy blondness. Isn't that right, Will?
Will (32:41): Yeah. You were only just saying it last Tuesday. Was it's amazing that we it came up.
Whitey (32:49): But, you know, like, she she debuted in the mask in '94 and became an overnight sensation Yeah. Jim Carrey. I think her best movie says something about Mary.
Unknown Speaker (32:58): It's hard to
Unknown Speaker (32:59): tell. I don't disagree. No. Very good. What's the bad is it bad teacher?
Unknown Speaker (33:04): She's very good in that too.
Unknown Speaker (33:06): Yeah. Bad teacher. She's she's I love
Unknown Speaker (33:08): bad teacher.
Whitey (33:08): She's she hasn't she hasn't worked for ages.
Unknown Speaker (33:11): Yeah. Married a Choice. By choice.
Whitey (33:14): By choice. She married the
Unknown Speaker (33:15): She married a very shit rock star. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (33:18): Like
Whitey (33:19): her. Mandy. She married one of the good Charlotte
Unknown Speaker (33:20): boys Both and dorks. Like, she could have married any rock star, and she married those two. That's one of those two or both of them or something.
Whitey (33:29): I think she was a bit unlucky in love, old Cameron. And I often question that these superstar women that have lots of partners can't quite get married, a bit like Halle Berry. I think they're bit part of the problem. She might be a little bit crazy. She might be.
Whitey (33:47): And look, there's nothing there's nothing found in I
Will (33:50): mean, I don't know. It felt it sound like she just found a bloody normal, like, normal ish guy in the in this crazy industry, and he happens to be a
Whitey (34:00): Crazy guy. Rocker. Yeah.
Will (34:01): And she just quit acting and has stayed married for, what, almost twenty years?
Unknown Speaker (34:06): But no kids. No kids.
Unknown Speaker (34:08): That's true. Yeah.
Dan (34:09): It's yeah. Look. The science of the crazy hot matrix and where it intersects, like, it's hard to argue with. If I look back when Gao was slaying tens, all of them were fucking batshit crazy, but he was putting them away rhythmic rhythmically with his seven. And
Whitey (34:26): that was what he was willing to put up to. Rhythmically. They weren't crazy before they met Gao.
Unknown Speaker (34:32): True. True. But eventually, they get the the crazy hot major intersex.
Unknown Speaker (34:36): Of course.
Whitey (34:37): Yeah. Yes. Yes. But, you know, she's in gangs in New York. She's obviously princess Fiona in Shrek.
Whitey (34:42): She's in Charlie's Angels. One of my little guilty pleasures that I like her in is the Tom Cruise movie with Night and Day. I think that's way better. That is way better than people give it that
Unknown Speaker (34:53): Yeah. Fair enough.
Whitey (34:54): Credit for. It's funny. She's very funny in it, and so is he. It's really worth a watch. Don't hold it against me.
Unknown Speaker (35:03): Dennis Quaid as Cap Rooney. Quaid. Now yeah. Very good, though. I thought
Unknown Speaker (35:09): I thought very good. Very believable.
Whitey (35:11): I think he's great. I I think I really like him.
Unknown Speaker (35:13): Same.
Whitey (35:15): But, you know, an understated career for someone who is pretty well known. Like
Dan (35:21): Do you know what happens him? Unfortunately, my time in the industry and my colleagues all agree to this, bit of a fuckwit.
Unknown Speaker (35:32): Oh, really? Bit
Unknown Speaker (35:34): of a fuckwit.
Whitey (35:35): Okay. So is that why Ryan
Unknown Speaker (35:38): listeners, the shit kind. Like gal.
Whitey (35:40): Yeah. So that's why Meg Ryan ended up in the arms of our Rusty.
Dan (35:44): It's right. Right. Well, she's and she's got a preference for fuckwits.
Whitey (35:51): Went from one to the to the other.
Unknown Speaker (35:52): One to a massive one.
Whitey (35:55): But the right stuff in 83, ball great balls of fire where he plays Jenny Jerry Lee Lewis, the parent trap, far from heaven, day after tomorrow. There's a whole heap of other movies, but I I quite like he's I question the 39 year old quarterback. He he does not look like Tom Brady. Nah. Physically.
Dan (36:18): Well, he's he's definitely older than that in in the the role, but Look. I think he carries it off. He's throwing arm. His left ear didn't look stupid. There was no Steven Segaling.
Dan (36:26): I he did well.
Whitey (36:28): Okay. Alright. Well, okay. Cap Rooney gets a tick. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (36:31): But a bit of a fuckwit. Yeah. A bit of a fuckwit.
Unknown Speaker (36:34): Yeah. But His
Whitey (36:34): wife is a fucking nightmare. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (36:37): Oh, but so hot. I'm I'm
Unknown Speaker (36:39): in the running.
Whitey (36:40): I'm a bit Lauren Holly girl. I'm a bit
Unknown Speaker (36:42): vice president at the fan club. Yeah. She's Yeah. She's she's a good sort.
Unknown Speaker (36:46): She but she looks She's a bitch. Right in the middle of your boys' vintage, though, as well. Oh, We're we're smashing the VHSs on the weekends.
Unknown Speaker (36:55): I'm I'm calling them games.
Unknown Speaker (36:57): Picket Fences?
Whitey (36:59): Yeah. Picket was it Picket Fences she was in?
Dan (37:01): Picket Bell, I can't remember. She was in one of those long running drama
Will (37:06): procedure. Just like a Hollywood actress version of Jenna Jameson.
Unknown Speaker (37:11): She's Okay.
Whitey (37:13): I like her. Yeah. Was she was really good in Dumb and Dumber.
Will (37:17): Yeah. Platinum blonde, straight hair, pretty good body.
Whitey (37:21): Sucks the main dick. All the good things. Yeah. Jamie Foxx, Willie Beeman. Now this role originally did you know who this role was originally for?
Unknown Speaker (37:31): Yeah. I do. Yeah. I do. Yeah.
Whitey (37:33): This one, Danny, I was just recently for, and he only got the job because Pee Diddy pulled out. Yeah. Could you imagine Pee
Dan (37:41): Dee Woolf was apparently, Pee Diddy was an absolute co ord and just had no no gross motor skills whatsoever.
Whitey (37:48): Yeah. Because his hands were slippery because of the baby oil. He loves a bit of baby oil.
Unknown Speaker (37:53): No idea. That's for our old boy. His heart's beating off those legs.
Whitey (37:56): He's much better with smaller round balls.
Unknown Speaker (37:59): Yeah. That are attached to Will Smith.
Unknown Speaker (38:06): Or Jaden. No. It's Jaden.
Whitey (38:10): Okay. But Jamie Foxx, so he's starting to break out around now. This is sort of he's a bit of an up and comer.
Unknown Speaker (38:18): He has a he has a massive moment. Yeah. Yeah.
Whitey (38:20): Yeah. And so this is really he's coming out, so to speak.
Dan (38:23): When you do a biopic like Ray, you're pretty much the the toast of the town there for for a while.
Whitey (38:29): And and that's and that's so he wins the Academy Award for Ray, playing Ray Charles, which he's incredible in. Yeah. But he's also great. He got a best actor nomination for collateral with Tom Cruise, which is a great
Unknown Speaker (38:41): Good dad's a good movie. I like that. Yeah. Yeah. Good movie.
Whitey (38:43): Obviously, he's excellent in Django Unchained. Plays a really good Yeah. Role there. He's in baby driver, one of Dan's favorite movies.
Unknown Speaker (38:52): Love it.
Whitey (38:53): Great clothes. Big baby driver guy. And Ali, obviously, plays opposite Will Smith in Ali, another Michael Mann about Muhammad Ali. Beaman's hard to take. I've got some questions in question time about Willie Beaman.
Whitey (39:11): They can't he can't be that big a fuck with so quickly.
Unknown Speaker (39:15): Yeah. It's a big old turnaround, isn't it?
Unknown Speaker (39:17): It is such a
Unknown Speaker (39:17): it is such a turn.
Unknown Speaker (39:19): Yeah. What's
Unknown Speaker (39:19): that going
Unknown Speaker (39:20): on? Three weeks?
Whitey (39:21): It's less than that. Yeah. It's less than that. He's a dick after game after the first quarter that he plays in that game.
Dan (39:27): Of the issue with the story, I think, Oliver Stone mashed three scripts together and one of them was a quarterback biopic and one of them was an NFL story and one of them was fuck knows what. But he took them and Frankenstomied his own script together. And I think that that's why it's a bit of an outlier story and probably doesn't quite fit. We're fed a lot of exposition about why he's been overlooked his whole life and used incorrectly as a cornerback and blah, blah, blah, blah, But, yeah,
Whitey (39:57): I don't think That doesn't happen until the end of the movie.
Unknown Speaker (40:00): Yeah. That doesn't happen
Whitey (40:01): till, like, the last twenty five minutes when he goes Yeah. Yeah. When that when he goes for the jumbalaya, really. Yeah. Like, we don't know why he's on the bench.
Whitey (40:09): We don't know who he is. I I think the timing of the movie is too short. Like, it's five weeks.
Dan (40:17): Yeah.
Whitey (40:18): Like, it it just feels like it's they've crammed a whole season's worth of stuff. It's also
Unknown Speaker (40:22): two and a half hours.
Whitey (40:24): Yeah. No. It's it's long. Which means it could have been a longer season.
Dan (40:28): Yeah. Such a trap. The bench warm is a superstar in most NFL fucking movies. It's there's always the bench warmer that turns into the absolute superstar and the number one quarterback hates his guts, blah blah blah. It's every fucking NFL story essentially.
Unknown Speaker (40:44): Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Have you guys seen
Unknown Speaker (40:46): the docu doco, the the English Premier League soccer player for Lesa Shea? Jamie Vollardy.
Unknown Speaker (40:51): I haven't seen it yet. I've I'm interested to see because he
Unknown Speaker (40:54): was a real bad guy.
Will (40:55): Some excerpts about it, but that's kinda one of those classic stories of actually it played out well. I'm I'm just Mate, it just he's a full on Sunday League player. Yeah. Has to be godly gifted.
Unknown Speaker (41:08): Yeah.
Will (41:09): And he gets picked up, and then he wins a prem with this.
Unknown Speaker (41:12): Takes less than
Whitey (41:13): a He was still playing last season. Mads. Jamie Vardy was still playing. He's like 41 or something now, 42. What was the name of
Dan (41:20): the Aussie fast bowler? More more more most have been New South Wales, but Doug Dougie Dougie?
Unknown Speaker (41:26): Dougie Bollinger.
Unknown Speaker (41:27): Oh, Dougie Bollinger. Bollinger. Bollinger. That's it. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (41:30): He was a similar story. He was he was terrorizing blokes in the park. Yeah. He was he was a firebrand just playing park cricket, then next thing he's playing for Australia.
Unknown Speaker (41:39): Sheffield Shield or something. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (41:41): Crazy.
Whitey (41:42): Okay. We'll we'll we'll run through these ones. James Woods is the dodgy doctor.
Unknown Speaker (41:47): He's good.
Unknown Speaker (41:48): He plays a dick in every movie he's in.
Dan (41:51): Yeah. Apparently, he's super, super smart too. Another thing that my industry scuttlebutt says, like, off the charts IQ. Yeah.
Whitey (41:59): Yeah. Right. Stupid. One of my favorite roles, he's in he plays Lester Diamond in Casino.
Unknown Speaker (42:06): Oh, yeah. Oh, he's grim. He's She's so grim. Kicking back.
Whitey (42:10): Yep. But, yeah, the dodgy doctor's great. And then, obviously, the last major one, LL Cool J is the J Man, the the running back who is an absolute tool bag. But, again, a rapper who got into a fight, a real fight on on set with Jane Fox, laid him out. But, you know, he's he he's in he's in two movies that I I quite enjoy as guilty pleasures.
Whitey (42:38): One is Deep Blue Sea about the shark, and it's really fun. Really good fun. And then another one, two thousand and three's SWAT with Samuel Jackson. And it is Colin Farrell in it as well? Colin Farrell.
Whitey (42:54): No. No. Samuel Jackson. Yeah. Colin Farrell.
Whitey (42:57): Yeah. The the French Gabrielle who at the moment is in that unfaithful. Michelle Rodriguez.
Unknown Speaker (43:05): It's Yeah. But it's do remember it. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (43:07): I remember watching Navy Seals as a kid, but that was a different it
Whitey (43:09): was Oh, was a great. Michael Bean. Seals is great. Michael Bean, Charlie Sheen.
Unknown Speaker (43:15): Yeah. Yeah. I remember the wedding scene,
Whitey (43:17): and they all had the bowl. Oh, the bowl. Yeah. And then they yeah. It's great.
Whitey (43:19): It's really good. But look. This the the cast goes on and on. So Matthew Modine, Laurence Tyler, Lauren Holly, Oliver Stone himself, Aaron Eckhart, Charlton Neston, Anne Margaret, Elizabeth Berkeley, Jim Brown.
Unknown Speaker (43:31): It's like all these films, really. Like, there's always a massive, massive deep cast.
Unknown Speaker (43:36): There is.
Unknown Speaker (43:36): If you're not clever on the call sheet, you're still a fucking multi.
Whitey (43:40): Absolutely. A $60,000,000 budget for this movie, which is is Makes more sense.
Unknown Speaker (43:46): That makes more sense.
Whitey (43:47): It did it did a 100,000,000 at the box office. So
Unknown Speaker (43:52): Would have lost
Whitey (43:52): dosh. Would have lost dosh. It's
Dan (43:56): I don't know if you guys listen to another podcast that's way better than ours for listening to, The Town with Matt Bellany on it's one of the Ringer podcasts. Heaps, heaps better than ours. It talks about the business of Hollywood and they did an episode the other day where they actually break down how the profits are distributed from when you say it's a $100,000,000, how what how it it makes its way down. They were talking about independent filmmakers. Really, really interesting unlike us.
Whitey (44:22): Yeah. Okay. Great. Well, maybe listen to that after you listen to that one. Opened in about two and a half thousand cinemas, had about eight weeks at the at the theaters.
Whitey (44:32): As we said, didn't make any money, but, you know, it's hard to make money as Morg said. Just listen to the town podcast. No Academy Awards for this one either. Now 1999 hit sleeper dud. We've done a randomizer today.
Whitey (44:55): So we've got to
Unknown Speaker (44:56): beat Oh, yeah.
Whitey (44:57): Something ourselves. I will start with you, Will. What do
Will (44:59): you got? Well, I mean, who's to say what's a hit sleeper or dud? I'll let you decide. But my movie for the night is Office Space. Oh god.
Unknown Speaker (45:07): Bank of
Unknown Speaker (45:08): America. Love it. Great. Cool. Great.
Will (45:10): Cool. Movie features an iconic scene where they're all, like, circling around this freaking inkjet printer in the empty lot, and they're just, like, laying their freaking baseball bats into it. And it it it's just iconic. Anyway, great movie. Good movie.
Will (45:25): If you haven't seen it, it's funny. Features a a pretty iconic little character. Who's the dude that brigging little Dilbert character?
Unknown Speaker (45:35): Yeah. Yeah. I know what you're talking about. Yeah. He's in heaps of stuff.
Whitey (45:38): Yeah. He's in heaps of stuff.
Unknown Speaker (45:40): Yep. So
Whitey (45:41): anyway But a very young Ron Livingston before before Band of Brothers.
Will (45:45): Yeah. Jennifer Aniston. Jennifer Aniston.
Whitey (45:47): Yeah. It's it's it's one of those eaten movies. Yeah. A bit of a indie. But It's good.
Whitey (45:53): Great. It's a movie. It's worth a watch. Dan, what do you got?
Unknown Speaker (45:57): Yeah. There's some 1999 is not bad. I can see why people do froth out on it. Like a lot of movies on this list. I like I quite like Notting Hill.
Dan (46:07): I quite like, I very much like American Beauty. The Blair Witch Project, I reckon I've only seen that once, but it was such a juggernaut of popular culture at the time. American Pie, obviously that was piss funny in 9099 when we were there. Yeah. Pretty fucking good year.
Unknown Speaker (46:26): I can see why people like it.
Whitey (46:28): Yeah. It's definitely a good year. I went I went with another footy movie, Varsity Blues. Yeah. Number six.
Whitey (46:35): Was really enjoyed this. Saw this at the movies. Listen to this class, though. Like, James Van Der Beek, who RIP, passed away just recently. Ali Lada
Unknown Speaker (46:44): Very sad.
Whitey (46:44): From Landman. Paul Walker, RIP, Scott Khan, Amy Smart, Jesse Plemons, John Voigt. Like, all of those people, apart from John Voigt because he's older, have all gone on to be pretty successful. Yeah. Yeah.
Whitey (46:59): Obviously, Paul Walker with Fast and the Furious, obviously, sadly died in the car crash, and James Vanderbijk just passed from cancer, which was really sad. But John Voigt went on to star in in Anaconda. Maybe he did this did Anaconda before this in one of the creepiest things you'll ever see. Very, very poor performance. But, again, James Vanderbijt plays the backup quarterback who takes over from Paul Walker, who gets injured, becomes the hero, so on and so forth.
Unknown Speaker (47:27): So it's same tribe. Exactly.
Whitey (47:29): Yeah. It's a it's an it's a story as old as time itself. Well done, gents. We don't have a Snorbs report special because Damon's not here, but question time. Is there a position in any sport with more pressure than a quarterback?
Unknown Speaker (47:54): It's pretty up there, that one. I think being a a pro golfer.
Whitey (47:58): Yeah. But the okay. That's individual. Yeah. So I'm thinking, like, if you're in a team, I I don't know that there is a position where you are more you you influence the game more.
Whitey (48:10): Why don't I think? Yeah. Dan?
Dan (48:13): Goalie in elite soccer, I think, would be fucked. That would be very tough. But, no, I think
Unknown Speaker (48:19): Yeah.
Dan (48:19): I think historically, the quarterback's going Dan Marino had a good quote when Al Pacino asked him what it's like being a quarterback, and he said it's like standing out in the middle of the freeway and dodging traffic while reciting Hamlet.
Whitey (48:35): Mate, they gotta think about a lot, man.
Unknown Speaker (48:37): Yeah. There's fucking Playbooks.
Whitey (48:39): Those playbooks are thick, and they gotta know exactly what everyone is doing.
Unknown Speaker (48:44): Yeah. It's madness.
Whitey (48:45): So yeah. Why would anyone wear sunnies in the dressing room at halftime? So the j man in the halftime of the first game, he's got fucking sunnies on. What's wrong with people? Because I'm assuming that shit happens.
Will (48:59): Yeah. Of course it does. Of course it does. And I don't have an answer for it. I don't understand it.
Will (49:05): No. I'm with you, mate. It's just well, I mean, are there reporters? There's reporters in the change room at halftime, is there? Well, I don't think there is.
Unknown Speaker (49:14): So it wasn't like he was doing interviews or anything.
Whitey (49:16): It's just weird. I find the whole I find the whole the wank factor of professional sport can be tiring. Yeah. Yep. I'm just saying tiring.
Unknown Speaker (49:30): Yeah. I see it in the NBA.
Unknown Speaker (49:34): Oh, mate.
Unknown Speaker (49:34): They gotta do a catwalk.
Unknown Speaker (49:35): They walk in? They have to do a catwalk. They walk past the press dressed in their shit clothes.
Will (49:39): Starting to get into other sports now too. Give it ten years, it'll be in the NRL. Dudes will
Whitey (49:44): be NRLs NRL guys still turn up in their club trackies, which is the way it should be. Yeah. Give it ten years. No. Please don't.
Unknown Speaker (49:52): Please don't.
Unknown Speaker (49:53): Walk in looking like Lewis Hamilton.
Unknown Speaker (49:55): Oh, yeah. Dan,
Whitey (49:59): this is one for you. Is John C. McGinley one of cinema's great douches?
Dan (50:04): He's excellent. He he's always put so much into his character roles. He's a favorite of mine. He's very good at being a dick ward in this one. Love him.
Whitey (50:13): Yeah. He he reminded me a lot of his character in platoon in this.
Unknown Speaker (50:17): Oh, so much so.
Unknown Speaker (50:18): Yeah. Yes. LT? LT? What do you say about that, LT?
Unknown Speaker (50:22): He's a
Whitey (50:23): real douche. He's a real douche. Okay. Would you pay $5,000 to sleep with Elizabeth Berkeley? For those of you that can't see, Will is shaking nodding his head.
Dan (50:42): Will, I'm gonna tell you something. When we were on the travels in 1999, I was walking down the street in London, minding my own fucking business, just wandering around with my own thoughts. Who's walking the other way, this statuesque blonde with curly hair, it's fucking Elizabeth Berkeley. And I make eye contact. I'm looking at her.
Dan (51:04): She proceeds to eye fuck the shit out of me. I felt like an object. It was crazy. And look. Her head was on a swivel as I walked past, and I mean, I had a raging erection.
Dan (51:19): And pretty much, I rooted her, but she rooted me by iruting me. Like, crazy.
Will (51:27): Wow. There you go. So would you have I mean, you found me to.
Unknown Speaker (51:31): He didn't need to pay the phone for it.
Dan (51:32): It was all done. I mean, it all happened. It all happened cerebrally, yet I knew exactly what she did to me and it was awesome.
Whitey (51:42): Right. Well, let me let me just dissect that story. Whilst in London, Morgz watched Showgirls, and then apparently Elizabeth Berkley walked past him and I fucked him. Alright? That's what happened.
Unknown Speaker (51:55): It's a true story. I've got don't have many memories from that time, but I remember that one. Okay.
Whitey (52:01): Now in a world where Tony D'Amato is last man standing at the bar, is Gao sitting next to him.
Unknown Speaker (52:13): Is sober as a judge looking giving him the side eye thinking he's a soft cock and ordering a whiskey.
Whitey (52:21): Yep. Yep. Absolutely. I completely agree. And that leads into, are drunk phone calls ever a good idea?
Unknown Speaker (52:30): Never. Never. Ever.
Whitey (52:34): I I do remember I do remember, Morgz, in 1999 Yeah. On your travels that I went out on the piss one night after footy and called you guys in London, and I was a fucking bandit. And I think I think you might have just started seeing a lady from Devon at the time, and I was seeing slice of Devon. Just just carry on like an absolute twat. Hey.
Whitey (53:09): So there are some good junk phone calls.
Unknown Speaker (53:14): There are. Calling ex outstanding.
Whitey (53:17): Calling an ex is a bad option. 100%. Especially when you get your son's name wrong. Calls him Tommy and then calls him Timmy. Like, give it away, Tony.
Whitey (53:26): Just stop. Just stop. Fantastic. Okay. And it's so funny.
Whitey (53:32): He's looking at, like, photos of them for when they're kids and they're and then he all of a sudden he's saying, we're grandparents. Like, how long have they been separated for? Like, fuck. Would a QB in his second start really go against the coaches play calls?
Unknown Speaker (53:49): Mate, no QB in their right mind is ever going against the coaches play call ever. Yeah. Ever. It's so unrealistic.
Unknown Speaker (53:57): Yeah. Right.
Unknown Speaker (53:58): And if they did, his third pick, you know what they do? They drop him. They draft another person. They bring him instantly. They've got reserve grades.
Will (54:06): Yep. They bring someone else up, and he's gone.
Whitey (54:08): Yep. I agree. Now the other question is, is he changing the plays because he can't read? So when when his girlfriend, Laila Rochon, who's a gorgeous black woman, she was in Harlem Nights. She's gorgeous.
Unknown Speaker (54:26): She
Whitey (54:26): says to him, it's oh, it has its funny bits. You shot him in the peeking toe. You shot her in the peeking toe. But she says to him, you you dumbass. You can't even read the playbook.
Whitey (54:40): Is is he is he can he
Unknown Speaker (54:42): not read? Well, I mean, if it's
Unknown Speaker (54:44): Or does he not know the plays, so he's
Will (54:45): just making shit up? Well, I reckon it's just that he's Cramming because he's not Willy Beaman. He's not yeah. Yeah. Willy Beaman.
Will (54:53): That's right. Because he hasn't he's been sitting on the bench. He was reading the newspaper.
Unknown Speaker (54:58): Yeah. That was amazing.
Will (54:59): Wasn't even watching the game when he got called up. He didn't even know that he was like, he didn't even know two quarterbacks had been locked.
Unknown Speaker (55:05): Yeah.
Will (55:06): I just think he was checked out. So then he's like, okay. I'm in the hot seat here. I better start cramming. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (55:11): I couldn't I didn't get why she was giving him so much shit. I know he he didn't introduce her to the mayor.
Unknown Speaker (55:17): And she's she's Oh, he was off flirting. He was off with all the birds. He he brushed her.
Unknown Speaker (55:21): And she was in her own head as well because the girls are
Whitey (55:23): because the girls are bitches. But, like, he had brushed her. Yeah. He was dancing with the other girls. He was he'd moved on.
Whitey (55:29): He was already too better too good for her.
Unknown Speaker (55:31): I suppose you're right.
Unknown Speaker (55:32): Yeah. Alright.
Whitey (55:33): Stand by. Now this could be the worst thing I've ever seen in a movie that we have covered. Right? But is Al Pacino's sex giggling the worst thing ever committed to celluloid? When he's in bed with Elizabeth Berkeley and she starts to tickle him and he giggles and it's all like with 15 year olds just finding each other for the first time, it was so bad.
Whitey (56:01): It was so bad. Have you seen anything worse?
Will (56:05): Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman in Days of Thunder that fucking just does me end in massively anytime I ever think about it. That sex scene is terrible.
Unknown Speaker (56:13): No. Tom yeah. Tom Cruise in any sex scene is horrific.
Unknown Speaker (56:16): Yeah. You are right there.
Unknown Speaker (56:17): But, no, that was particular just
Unknown Speaker (56:21): Yeah. And that was that was like Al Pacino giggling. Yeah. I was like, what?
Unknown Speaker (56:26): Wait. The stocks. Like, Al Pacino stocks dropped.
Whitey (56:28): Dropped big time. Big time. Ugh. Where does old mate get the alligator from that he throws in the showers?
Unknown Speaker (56:36): Great scene. Great scene.
Unknown Speaker (56:38): Great scene. Heaps of cocks. Yeah.
Will (56:41): Right? Walked outside into the stormwater culvert right next to the fucking
Unknown Speaker (56:46): Are they just randomly around?
Will (56:47): Guarantee guaranteed there's an alligator in there, mate. Yeah. 100%. Fuck. I didn't understand.
Unknown Speaker (56:55): It was so much I was yeah. Anyway, I'm keep going.
Whitey (56:58): Well, okay. Another question. Would the game be called off if someone lost their eye? Yeah. Yeah.
Whitey (57:07): How do you lose an
Unknown Speaker (57:08): eye with a helmet on too?
Unknown Speaker (57:09): Yeah. I know. That was I thought I thought exactly the same thing.
Unknown Speaker (57:13): How do Surely. Do they think they are?
Unknown Speaker (57:16): I just get just Oh, no. It's It rolls me up. Oh, look how tough these guys are. Oh, just They lose their eyes and they play on. But sure.
Unknown Speaker (57:23): At what point do they go, okay. Now we we just gotta stop the game here. Do see how do you see how long the root was on that thing? It was a big stem.
Unknown Speaker (57:30): It pulled it out of his brain.
Unknown Speaker (57:31): Yeah. It was a big stem.
Unknown Speaker (57:33): That wasn't that wasn't just his eyeball. That was that's that's a a major brain injury going on there.
Whitey (57:38): Yeah. It's not good. Morgues for you. Does Pacino's inch by inch speech rank in all time modern Yeah.
Dan (57:48): That's it's one of those. Highlights for sure in the movie. It's been utilized widely by actual successful coaches and everything from the Premier League to Aussie sport. It's widely adored and recognised as a great written speech spoken very well by Al Pacino. So, yeah, I think as far as sports speeches go, it's very high.
Whitey (58:12): Born to watch only fans now, people.
Unknown Speaker (58:16): Lick it.
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Whitey (58:35): Nearly? Yep. We do. I'm just going to play this and see what you think.
Speaker 5 (58:43): Hear the bird sounds warty. Yeah, fellas. Chubbers. I just finished listening to the project Hail Mary pod, and it was terrific. Really was.
Speaker 5 (58:54): I enjoyed that very much. And I'm not a fan of the movie, so the fact that you guys can entertain me like that, it's a credit to what you do. Jesus, Will, and the
Unknown Speaker (59:11): Lama did a
Speaker 5 (59:13): great job. And I'll hold you to the warriors too the next time all four of you are in the same pod.
Unknown Speaker (59:22): Not that that means anything.
Unknown Speaker (59:23): That could be a year or
Unknown Speaker (59:24): two away, but I'm grateful that you took it on board, and I look forward to it. Thanks, fellas.
Whitey (59:33): Oh, Chuppas, we love having you around. You're you're a spark for the middle of the podcast that just keeps us going.
Unknown Speaker (59:40): That's great. You reckon you reckon Chuppas is having a Chuppas is having a couple of sherbets when he made that voicemail?
Whitey (59:46): No. I think he's having a couple of these. Look. He's retired. He's a
Unknown Speaker (59:50): Well, should I have said? I hope he's having fucking James Bond martinis on his porch.
Whitey (59:55): He can have as many sherbets as he wants. And in fact
Dan (59:57): Do not get me wrong. Was not being derogatory when asking that question. I should hope. I'm just picturing like the Avery, he's mixing a dry martini, bit bit extra vermouth. I reckon he's a he's a vermouth guy for sure.
Unknown Speaker (1:00:11): Where is where is Chappas from?
Whitey (1:00:13): Oh, he's from Sydney. I think he's from around Penrith. Penrith area. He's heart and soul. Big Panthers fan.
Whitey (1:00:19): Yeah. I'm sure. Yeah. We love having him around. He's one of our one of our favorite f wits.
Whitey (1:00:24): Yeah. There's no doubt about that. But people, if you wanna be on the show as well, just hop on the website, wonderwatch.com.au. Click the voice mail. Leave a voice mail.
Whitey (1:00:35): Become part of the show yourselves, and we'll give you a bit of a lick out as well while we do the shoppers.
Will (1:00:39): Perps. I'm serious. I need a report out of you by next Wednesday.
Whitey (1:00:45): Yeah. Yeah. We do need to this we gave you full frontal wing here and quite substantial.
Unknown Speaker (1:00:49): Like, you asked, we got
Whitey (1:00:50): We gave you prime Alabama black snakes.
Unknown Speaker (1:00:53): Yeah. We
Whitey (1:00:54): did. And we wanna report Too
Unknown Speaker (1:00:57): bad goo.
Whitey (1:01:12): A good time of year for the Hazy's we've talked about, Dan. And I was away in Melbourne, and the place where I was at had matzo's, chili lime, ginger beer on top.
Unknown Speaker (1:01:23): Oh. Favorite. Our favorite. Good piss. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (1:01:27): Good piss.
Whitey (1:01:28): It was it was lovely. I had a couple.
Unknown Speaker (1:01:31): Excellent.
Whitey (1:01:32): Yeah. It was nice. It warmed the cockles in the in the Do know who had more than
Unknown Speaker (1:01:35): a couple was your bloody brother?
Whitey (1:01:38): My brother had a lot. G Man had a lot, which is one of the reasons he's I think he's still recovering over in China. Grace. Yeah. He's gonna get a new ass spleen, I think, or liver.
Whitey (1:01:47): Get
Unknown Speaker (1:01:48): me one while he's there.
Unknown Speaker (1:01:50): Absolutely. Now the good damn, we'll start with you. What do you got for good?
Dan (1:01:54): Look. I like the cast. I think the cast is nice and deep apart from my ambivalence towards Al Pacino and who else may have done a better role in that, I still think it's good. Jamie Foxx, I thought was exceptionally good. Dennis Quave, we've talked about.
Dan (1:02:07): Really liked LL Cool J. He's become quite a good actor. LL Cool J. He's been a long running CSI, one of the variations. CSI Des Moines or somewhere.
Dan (1:02:18): Yeah, sorry. NTIAS Des Moines.
Unknown Speaker (1:02:21): He was
Dan (1:02:22): That's it. I like the twist at the end. I don't think I'm ruining it. Post Yeah. With Al Pacino taking Willie to the new expansions, him in Albuquerque.
Dan (1:02:37): I think that's fantastic. Really nice little Easter egg at the end. We finally got some sign from Dick for perps I've written here, so that's great. We've touched on that. And I also already mentioned my deep in the travels, Elizabeth Berkeley, I Fucking Me story.
Unknown Speaker (1:02:52): So that's another thing I like about this movie.
Unknown Speaker (1:02:55): The memories. Oh, the memories. Wilbert, what about you? What have I got? Lawrence Taylor, actually pretty good at the acting.
Unknown Speaker (1:03:03): Yeah. He's good. I liked it.
Will (1:03:05): I was impressed enough. Cameron Diaz in a prime. Got that written in good. The kitchen argument over the jumba liar. Two heads clashing.
Will (1:03:14): Two schools of thought. Past and the future of the game out of stalemate.
Unknown Speaker (1:03:17): Yeah. Wheel's good.
Unknown Speaker (1:03:19): It's good. Yeah. That's all I got.
Whitey (1:03:21): That's all you got? Okay. I've already mentioned, but I thought the filming's the the filming of the games was good. Being close took away a lot of the the guessing work for us. Yeah.
Whitey (1:03:31): All over CTE. All over the head knocks.
Dan (1:03:34): Yeah. That would be for their time. Yeah.
Whitey (1:03:36): Before the time. They're they're probably they're probably a good six, seven years away from really diving in the the the head knock stuff. Yep. Flowers for the coach. You gotta take flowers
Unknown Speaker (1:03:46): for the coach. Good stitcher.
Whitey (1:03:47): Loves that. I thought that was amazing. And he's like, fucking shark. I thought that was really good. Chopping Beamon's car.
Whitey (1:03:56): So, again, you know, saying shit about you. Beamon's saying shit about you. Yeah. And and the defense, he's out there. He just cuts his car in half.
Unknown Speaker (1:04:04): Just just happens to have a Husqvarna k nine Of course he does.
Unknown Speaker (1:04:06): Oh, Yeah. Good bit of good bit of kick blade, isn't it?
Unknown Speaker (1:04:10): Riddest it on the of truck, Will. Yeah. Fantastic.
Whitey (1:04:13): I've got here kids always tell the truth. So that kid with with the J man going that my dad says my dad says that you only play for the bonus, that you play for yourself. Yeah. And he's just there going, fuck it, hell. But I tell you what, he takes it.
Whitey (1:04:28): He take I think he takes it on. Yeah. I think he takes that on. So, well done, dude.
Unknown Speaker (1:04:32): They always tell the truth. Bonus. That's about the bonus.
Whitey (1:04:35): Jerry Maguire. Yeah. Gotta get the bonus. Pacino's speech and Morgz, you mentioned it, the press conference highlights. And the cast.
Whitey (1:04:45): Morgz said the cast is great. Very deep. And that's a typical Oliver Stone thing. Lots of roles for lots of people. Bad, Will.
Unknown Speaker (1:04:54): Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (1:04:56): Turtleneck tops. Fuck my. I was always gonna wear one tonight.
Unknown Speaker (1:05:05): Oh god.
Unknown Speaker (1:05:06): I was gonna try and find a white turtleneck just to just to bang up. Just to go with all the dicks. Yeah. Exactly. Thops entailing it.
Will (1:05:13): Mate, bonuses always lead him to injuries in movies. Can't believe just pay him. There's that dude. He's literally like, he's one bad hit away from dying on the field. Yeah.
Will (1:05:23): And they're like,
Unknown Speaker (1:05:25): oh, something like eleven seconds. To do. Like What can we do? Oh, I don't know.
Will (1:05:30): You've he's got one tackle left in the contract. How about we just pay him anyway? Like, there's but there's
Whitey (1:05:36): but there's also another I think there's a baseball movie or something where there's a picture if he throws a certain amount of oh, no. It was it's eight men out. So the movie about the the Black Sox who threw the world series in, like, nineteen o eight, that one of the pitchers, the reason that he sort of threw the like, the took the bribe was because the owner of the team manipulated his bonus. So he if he throw a certain amount of games, he would have gotten a bonus, but they rested him for four games. And he goes, but you rested me four games that I could have pitched.
Whitey (1:06:12): And I and he's missed out by a game and he goes, you pay it, and he goes, well, you didn't you didn't pitch 25 games. So he goes, well, fuck you and took the money to throw the world series. So Yeah. I I think there's the the bonuses are good for in terms of an incentive, but they're not good. Well, if you won tackle away from it Fucking pay it.
Unknown Speaker (1:06:31): You've done the work, haven't you? Pay you've Pay it. Just you've given your freaking and you've got, like, a wife and three kids sitting in the stands
Unknown Speaker (1:06:38): For thirteen years. Yeah. Like Thirteen
Unknown Speaker (1:06:39): years, he'd been playing as well. I think yeah.
Whitey (1:06:41): Yes. It's just far too cutthroat for my liking. Yeah.
Will (1:06:44): Run time is so long as this movie. It's too long. Sorry. It's too long. There's
Unknown Speaker (1:06:50): too No.
Unknown Speaker (1:06:50): Don't don't
Will (1:06:52): need to apologize. Perfluous cutaway scenes and things. It's just alright. Get to the point. Okay.
Will (1:06:58): The panning camera shots and the loose chaotic feel had me struggling to stay engaged. Yeah. And the bathroom coke scene was weird as fuck. It was just so weird. It was like they're in there hanging out.
Unknown Speaker (1:07:10): They're doing coke. The blah blah blah. Then some girl comes in mad and blah blah blah, and then they're just running out and there's some girl yelling at them. I'm like, what just happened?
Unknown Speaker (1:07:18): Is he taking a shit while he's getting that blowjob, you reckon? Blunt. They call him a A Blumpy?
Unknown Speaker (1:07:23): Yeah. Blumpy. Blumpy. Blumpy. Blumpy.
Unknown Speaker (1:07:26): Blumpy.
Whitey (1:07:26): Like, that was that was interesting.
Will (1:07:28): Yeah. Bit different, Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't a look. Different.
Unknown Speaker (1:07:35): I thought he Dennis Quaid is an old looking 39 year old quarterback.
Unknown Speaker (1:07:39): Does look old. But I think I think he does alright with it, though. He does look old.
Will (1:07:42): One of the things that really shit me about the movie the whole way through was the music. The music was it it placed it so deeply in 1999 to start with. Yep. Every one of the tracks felt like a bad hacking movie.
Unknown Speaker (1:07:54): Yep. You know what? Oh, yeah. She expected Johnny Lee Miller to come out.
Unknown Speaker (1:07:58): Techno. Yeah. She's in techno. Like, I'm all for good good hard house.
Unknown Speaker (1:08:03): I mean, we we have a compatriot We do.
Unknown Speaker (1:08:05): Under the house. DJ Glass. Under the Yeah.
Whitey (1:08:07): Under the under the umbrella. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (1:08:09): Under the umbrella.
Unknown Speaker (1:08:09): All hail all hail to DJ Glass.
Unknown Speaker (1:08:11): Premier Sheffield Hard DJs. Hard House history.
Unknown Speaker (1:08:14): Listened to our stuff. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (1:08:16): Right? Yeah.
Will (1:08:16): Yeah. But this movie was annoying. It felt schizophrenic because it was cutting from techno. There was a couple of moments where the music worked real good. There was a Kirk Franklin track.
Will (1:08:26): Was like gospel. And it was as it this dude was just letting this ball go, and it was so funky and so good, and it fit real good. And then it was gone, and it was on to some other techno thing. And then they're in the showers and there's thrash metal all of a sudden. And it was just intense music one after the other.
Will (1:08:43): No, like, dynamic downtime ever.
Whitey (1:08:45): The movie felt like an epileptic fit. It was just It was erratic. Yes. It's a good way to say it. It kind of, yeah, left me
Unknown Speaker (1:08:53): a little bit just exhausted.
Unknown Speaker (1:08:54): Yeah. Yeah. I agree. Yep. That's it.
Unknown Speaker (1:08:57): Dan, what do you got for bad?
Dan (1:08:59): Yeah. I agree with what we were saying. And I know Oliver Stone was doing that intentionally so that he was trying to mimic the chaotic chaos of modern NFL. That's why those fast cuts were how he presented all the games. But in a normal, a standard film, there's approximately a thousand edits.
Dan (1:09:21): Usually it's a very rough number, but that'll give you a guide to what a normal film normally has. This film has 3,000. It's definitely way overused. We were just beaten over the head with his thematic stuff. Fuck yeah, they're gladiators fine.
Dan (1:09:36): Okay. We get it. Just all the subliminal stuff and the constant harking back to the gladiators, we didn't need it. Everyone knows NFL, everyone knows it's a brutal sport. I think we could have relied more on the character and the storyline rather than having to check back to that with those stylistic cuts.
Dan (1:09:55): The move between the 35 millimeter and the 16 millimeter and even the video cam footage was again meant to jar us and be this chaos nature of how the sport is portrayed. But it was very obvious when they were in the nice super saturated 35 mil and then that grainy 16 mil stock and then the very shitty digital stock. I just, I don't know. It just seemed over the top and unnecessary.
Whitey (1:10:22): Yeah. It's it's hard it's hard to look past the editing. It really is. I think it is it's distracting. I've got here first game goes for too long and there's too much slo mo.
Whitey (1:10:33): Right? But then the movie sort of flips that and it just becomes super erratic. Everything's just everything's over edited. It it it's brutal to watch. Too much style over substance.
Whitey (1:10:49): Christina, she started to grate on me, which then made me really not believe her redemption so quickly at the end, and I'm gonna get to this. I've again, I've said I've said it it seems all players and their wives suck. Yeah. Like, everyone involved in this thing inherently is a shit ton. Mhmm.
Whitey (1:11:09): Right? Inherently. Yeah. The Willie Beaman film clip. Right.
Whitey (1:11:17): So he's played he's played two games in the NFL.
Unknown Speaker (1:11:20): He's releasing.
Whitey (1:11:21): And he's releasing a single?
Unknown Speaker (1:11:23): Awesome.
Whitey (1:11:24): And he's his film clip is tragic. Yeah. Like, the the poses, it's just oh my god.
Dan (1:11:30): So Jamie Fox wrote that and sung it himself. So that was fantastic.
Whitey (1:11:35): Yeah. Of course. Props to that. Like, he's he's quite talented Jamie Foxx. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (1:11:39): Yeah. He's brilliant. Brilliant.
Unknown Speaker (1:11:40): But But that is one part of the movie that's so bad. It's good.
Whitey (1:11:43): Yeah. And that but but, you know, I'm so I'm looking if I saw that on MTV, I'd be like, what about this peanut? Yeah. Right? James Woods is great, but as a if he was your doctor, just a scumbag.
Whitey (1:11:58): Yeah. Like, just the worst. And then Matthew Modine, who's this higher like, holier than thou, takes him forty minutes as the head doctor to become him. Yeah. He's talking to the girl on the sideline.
Whitey (1:12:11): He's and when when else when Sharks is, give me another give me another needle. Goes, we don't need it. He goes, I know I don't need it. He goes, but, you know, I want it. Like, him being his knee being drained, like, it was brutal.
Whitey (1:12:25): Brutal. The cap conspiracy where, okay, now we wanna keep him. Let's keep him sick. He's Woods is talking to Christina. Let's keep him injured.
Whitey (1:12:38): Let's say that he's injured because we don't want him to play. I thought that was I I I think that would happen all the time, like in in many sports. Yeah. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (1:12:48): And then Tomfoolery going on.
Whitey (1:12:50): Definitely. And then I feel there's too many redemptions in the last game. So Pacino has redemption because he makes the call to play Beamon. Cap has the redemption by going, you gotta give it to Beamon. Beamon has the redemption by saying, sorry.
Whitey (1:13:08): I was taken over by, you know, black six six six. I've got you guys now. I'm now a team guy. Christina has the redemption up in the box. Like, there's too many Too cute.
Unknown Speaker (1:13:21): Too yeah. I'm like, why? Yeah. Keep her a bitch. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (1:13:24): I'd have way more respect if she was if she was a bitch. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (1:13:29): Yeah.
Whitey (1:13:29): But I just think that with everyone it was like a big happy ending. I was waiting for the laugh ending. I was waiting for a demo laugh ending. Yeah. Oh, the the green slime.
Unknown Speaker (1:13:37): Everyone gets in the convertible and flies off into the sky. Absolutely. I was waiting for the bear to fall on Christine. Everyone go, like, oh god. Okay.
Whitey (1:13:48): There's a there's more, but that'll do. Anyone gonna think for ugly?
Unknown Speaker (1:13:52): Oh, I mean, losing an eye. Anyway That's pretty bad. I don't understand how it happened.
Whitey (1:13:59): Might might have been a finger. Might have been poked. Like Yeah. It's a long way to go.
Unknown Speaker (1:14:03): To just scooping with your finger.
Whitey (1:14:06): Yeah. It's a long way to go. Dan, anything for ugly?
Dan (1:14:09): Just the thought of Al Pacino, that little midget making it with my girl Elizabeth Berkeley. Like, that's just that's just grosses me
Unknown Speaker (1:14:18): out, but
Unknown Speaker (1:14:18): that's about it.
Whitey (1:14:19): What about getting stuck in the toilet while someone shoots themselves?
Unknown Speaker (1:14:24): Yeah. Wow. And he would've he would've gone alright.
Unknown Speaker (1:14:27): No. Yeah. He's football player. That guy. Heinous.
Unknown Speaker (1:14:31): Yeah. Heinous.
Whitey (1:14:32): I I felt I felt sorry for him because I've been in a similar situation on the football field where I'm like, if I do not get off the field, I'm going to shit myself. And I had to fake an injury. I had to fake an injury. It was in I'll tell you what. It was in 1992.
Whitey (1:14:49): You would have been a wee pop. No. It was in 1992. I was 16. I was playing Colts at grade.
Whitey (1:14:55): I was at private school, but in the preseason, went and played cults at at Ringer. Sorry. Playing cults at Ringer. And I played I think I played all the fourth grade. So I started in fourth grade.
Whitey (1:15:06): I then went on for about forty minutes in third grade. I then went on for about forty minutes in second grade, and then they put me on at halftime of first grade colts.
Unknown Speaker (1:15:17): Jeez. You're out of the heat of that year, ain't you?
Unknown Speaker (1:15:18): Right. And so This hot property damn thing going on.
Unknown Speaker (1:15:22): Then He speaks through it.
Whitey (1:15:24): By the time I got to playing, like, going on at halftime in first grade, I'd been I'd been at one, I'd been at the ground since about 9AM. Two, I'd hardly eaten anything, and I'd not drunk anywhere near enough water. I was just starting to feel crook. And I was running around the field. I reckon I lasted about fifteen minutes, and I was like, okay.
Whitey (1:15:42): I'm about to shit myself. So I thought, no. Fight through. Fight through. You'll be right.
Whitey (1:15:47): I reckon I made another two or three minutes. And I went, no. And I went as I was running, I've gone, oh, faked a fucking car for a hammy, gone down and gone, oh, I'm cramping. I'm cramping. I'm I don't know what's wrong.
Whitey (1:15:59): They got us, and then the trainer came out and he goes, you're alright. I said, gets me off this fucking field. And I and I just went straight into the train's room and destroyed it. Did what he did. Oh, yeah.
Whitey (1:16:12): Yeah. So I I do feel his pain. But then my other ugly is Lauren Holly. Yeah. So he's so Cap's been the quarterback for thirteen seasons or however long he's been.
Whitey (1:16:24): He's 39. He's the he's the preeminent quarterback, franchise quarterback.
Unknown Speaker (1:16:30): Pantheon cup winner.
Whitey (1:16:32): Yep. Pantheon cup winner. He's gonna be okay. He's going to get a job. He's going to be, like, the next commentator on one of the networks.
Unknown Speaker (1:16:42): Yeah. You're gonna be a pundit.
Unknown Speaker (1:16:43): He's gonna be fine.
Unknown Speaker (1:16:44): Not good enough.
Whitey (1:16:45): Except she wants to be the quarterback's wife.
Unknown Speaker (1:16:48): Mhmm. Yeah.
Whitey (1:16:49): Forever. He should've told her to fuck off. And she and her sitting down when he gets when he gets hurt at the end Says everything. Just like, you are a fuckwit.
Unknown Speaker (1:16:58): Yeah. Yeah. Says everything.
Whitey (1:17:01): Anyway, that's it for good, the bad, the ugly. Quick fire. Daniel.
Dan (1:17:09): Yes, gentlemen. I made this quick. Don't need your help with this one. Quick fire look alike, morgues alike. There's three massive morgues alike straight off the bat.
Dan (1:17:17): Dennis Quaid, Aaron Eckhart, and John not John Woods. What's his name?
Unknown Speaker (1:17:23): James Woods.
Unknown Speaker (1:17:24): James Woods. That's it. One, two, three. I'm essentially I'm an amalgam. I'm an amalgam of those three, not James Woods.
Unknown Speaker (1:17:33): John Woods. You are John Woods. You are John Woods.
Unknown Speaker (1:17:36): Was he Rafferty's Rules?
Whitey (1:17:39): John Woods. Wasn't he like what was the one with?
Unknown Speaker (1:17:43): Was it Rafferty's Rules? He was
Whitey (1:17:45): Was he in Rafferty's Rules? Yeah. Wasn't he in Rafferty's Rules? And he was also in the cop one with Lisa McCune, wasn't he?
Dan (1:17:52): Fat Morgz was definitely John Woods, but skinny Morgz is James Woods.
Unknown Speaker (1:17:57): I feel a bit like
Dan (1:17:58): an haircut. I used to just hang around with footballers and kind of be the skinny dork that they tolerated. So yes, that's the story of my life. Well done. Don't need your help for that one.
Unknown Speaker (1:18:08): I couldn't agree with me more. Next one, Five minute movie. What could one of the characters have done to make this a really fast movie? Yeah. Look.
Dan (1:18:18): I I'm not sure. Will, anything you noticed?
Unknown Speaker (1:18:23): No. No. I don't think it was redeemable. No. It's like
Dan (1:18:28): It would have been nice if it was somewhat trimmer, but I don't know that it was an easy out.
Will (1:18:34): I just stopped. Yeah. Maybe just don't stop with the superfluous cuts of shots down alleyways and and like the
Unknown Speaker (1:18:40): just it was How how short do you think this movie could be? I mean, do you think we could around
Unknown Speaker (1:18:46): the couple storylines. You could have done under two hours easy.
Whitey (1:18:50): Yeah. Yeah. I agree. I reckon that two hours is enough for this movie. Yeah.
Whitey (1:18:53): Yeah. The thirty seven extra minutes, you get nothing out of it.
Unknown Speaker (1:18:57): No. Not enough. There's
Unknown Speaker (1:18:58): there's not even a sex thing.
Unknown Speaker (1:19:00): That was completely unnecessary.
Unknown Speaker (1:19:02): There was no boobs in this movie.
Unknown Speaker (1:19:04): Oh, yes. It was. Elizabeth Berkley, my girl, got a snobs out.
Whitey (1:19:08): Please. That ain't count. They're like minis.
Dan (1:19:12): Some people are into the minier size.
Unknown Speaker (1:19:15): Well, there you are.
Unknown Speaker (1:19:17): Anyway, you're base shit at five
Unknown Speaker (1:19:20): and this where it's coming from? Is this coming from the 1999 walkers?
Dan (1:19:25): I don't know where who knows where kinks come from, but yeah, maybe. Maybe the eye fucking was what started me on my downward spiral. But anyhoo, next up the golden ticket. Anything from any given Sunday that has passed over into popular culture. Look, that speech, I think it would be hard to argue hasn't because it is utilised by high end coaches.
Dan (1:19:46): Anything else, Waddy?
Whitey (1:19:48): We used to sing the Willie Beaman song.
Unknown Speaker (1:19:50): I still sing the Willie Beaman song.
Unknown Speaker (1:19:52): So yes. And so do I. I still sing I still sing the Willie Beaman song.
Unknown Speaker (1:19:56): Because old lady, don't does he say you don't bring sand to the beach when he's in the showers?
Unknown Speaker (1:20:01): Well, Luke shouldn't bring sand to the beach. We've been down there. Morgz has been down there.
Unknown Speaker (1:20:05): I think Morgz
Unknown Speaker (1:20:06): already talked to Luke.
Unknown Speaker (1:20:07): Yeah. He's counting a little bit of wisdom. Yeah. Was he the last couple of weeks? Had Morgz's.
Unknown Speaker (1:20:11): 6,000 beers and two vodkas that I decided I'd tell him how it is.
Whitey (1:20:15): The spousing.
Unknown Speaker (1:20:16): Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (1:20:16): Anyway.
Dan (1:20:18): Excellent. Yeah. And also the theme song I've always got that stuck in my head too. At the end. Good one.
Dan (1:20:27): Pig face slick outs for the biggest douchebag character. Mean, we've touched on this old Johnny Woods, hard to hard to go past.
Whitey (1:20:35): Yeah. I think he's the one. Christina Pugniacci is who
Dan (1:20:38): he's Then I got a soft spot, Bert. I just think she's more aligned with this being a business and her needing to be ruthless. I think she's probably
Unknown Speaker (1:20:47): Or Lauren Holly.
Unknown Speaker (1:20:49): Lauren Holly too, but she's coming up for me shortly. Okay.
Unknown Speaker (1:20:53): John Woods. Lauren Ollie. Excellent.
Unknown Speaker (1:20:55): John Woods, John Woods.
Dan (1:20:57): Steven Seagal running for a particularly poor showing of athletic prowess. I think Diddy got the ass because he was very Steven Seagal esque. I'd liked all the rest. Thought Dennis Quatte and Jamie Foxx handled themselves well in the quarterback footage. I felt like it was well depicted.
Dan (1:21:15): I'm not a massive NFL nerd, I couldn't tell when they were doing anything particularly poorly, but felt good.
Whitey (1:21:21): I think the close ups helped, as I said, but you can't tell. You cannot tell.
Dan (1:21:27): I like the game edit, I liked. It was the rest of the superfluous editing that was
Unknown Speaker (1:21:31): Correct. I agree. I agree with that.
Dan (1:21:34): Robot's entries, no, we did not need to know anything
Unknown Speaker (1:21:36): about no. This.
Dan (1:21:37): Please no. Not one. And why does Brad Pitt for what you would like to do to Ms. Pagniacci or Old Mate's wife or Willie Beamins, miss O, or one of the two dozen hookers that were at the party with him at Old Mate Shark's house. Why do you
Whitey (1:21:55): I'm going Lauren Harley.
Unknown Speaker (1:21:57): Super hot. Yeah. Will's Will's not digging on it.
Unknown Speaker (1:22:01): Yeah. He's got he's going young he's going young Cameron Diaz.
Will (1:22:04): Yeah. I'm going prime Diaz every day of the week, mate. Yeah. And I've never been
Unknown Speaker (1:22:09): a huge Diaz fan. K. I think
Unknown Speaker (1:22:12): she's There's girl in my high school that looked kinda like Diaz. Really?
Unknown Speaker (1:22:17): Probably what it is. She's got a bit of a
Unknown Speaker (1:22:18): You know, when you're in high school and there's these girls that just they're just hot. And they just stage with you forever.
Unknown Speaker (1:22:23): Right? Yeah. They do.
Unknown Speaker (1:22:24): Yeah. That's probably
Whitey (1:22:25): They're in the bank. Yeah. They're in the bank forever. It's in the bank. Yeah.
Whitey (1:22:30): When you really need to dig deep. Yeah. Sure. After six or eight beers, when you really need to dig deep, you're going back to the school bank.
Unknown Speaker (1:22:39): It's amazing what a memory can do when you really need
Unknown Speaker (1:22:42): to remember this. It's a master. Yeah, Dan.
Dan (1:22:47): I appreciate both those answers. I'm actually going to change this moving forward to Elizabeth Berkley's Dan Morgan for instead of Whitey's Brad Pitt.
Unknown Speaker (1:22:57): So Righto.
Unknown Speaker (1:22:58): Sure. Move on. Thank you, Bruce. That was quick fire.
Whitey (1:23:03): Listen to this no snobs report today, which is a shame. Unless, Will, you wanna have you
Will (1:23:10): got anything? Oh, I'd like to report their worst snorbs in the movie.
Whitey (1:23:13): Great. Yeah. Yeah. Excellent. Great report.
Whitey (1:23:16): You're all over it. No RSI with that one.
Unknown Speaker (1:23:18): And and and Miles Badger.
Will (1:23:22): Yeah. Yeah. There was some there was a a length. Isn't that called Todger? Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (1:23:27): Todger. Yeah.
Whitey (1:23:28): Todger. I'm sure that Strangles will be all over it. You'll probably send something through with the male Spadger report.
Unknown Speaker (1:23:33): Yeah. Excellent.
Whitey (1:23:34): Yep. Okay. Anyone Wilbur, you got anything for listening to this?
Will (1:23:37): Yeah. Yeah. Always takes me by surprise, you see.
Whitey (1:23:40): I know. It's it's only episode 21 or whatever.
Will (1:23:44): Al Pacino particularly relished his role as he found that a refreshing change from the usual cops and gangsters he often plays.
Unknown Speaker (1:23:51): Oh, because he got to root a 25 year old.
Unknown Speaker (1:23:53): Yeah. I think that's what it was. He's already relished. Freaking idiot. You know about the Pete Diddy one that was quite silly?
Will (1:23:59): Yep. Yeah. Yeah. And the only other thing I've got that hasn't already been mentioned is the word fuck. It's spoken a 117 times in the movie.
Unknown Speaker (1:24:09): I reckon that's low.
Unknown Speaker (1:24:10): Yeah. I suppose it'd
Whitey (1:24:11): be low. Seems low.
Unknown Speaker (1:24:13): Seem to be a whole
Unknown Speaker (1:24:13): lot of just hammering on,
Whitey (1:24:16): it's the it's the the black vernacular Yeah. How they talk. Right? So it's very fast and very sweary. Not to say that Born to Watts isn't.
Whitey (1:24:25): But
Unknown Speaker (1:24:26): It's true.
Unknown Speaker (1:24:27): Anything else? No. No. That's it. Dan, you got anything?
Dan (1:24:30): Yeah. We talked about alternative casting, but not even Al Pacino. So Willie Beaman, Cooper Gooding Jr. Was considered. And I think probably to align with his Jerry Maguire success would have seemed a little strange.
Dan (1:24:46): And for Cap Rooney, Jack Cap Rooney, George Clooney almost caught the part, which I think he would have done with aplomb as
Unknown Speaker (1:24:52): well. Yeah. Okay.
Unknown Speaker (1:24:55): Look forward. There we go.
Whitey (1:24:58): So the the while filming the sideline brawl, I've already mentioned this, but LL Cooljoy improvised and actually hit Jamie Foxx without warning. And I then called an actual real fight. They started a real fight with the police had to be called to to sort it out because it became an all in. So, anyway, Petrino was caught in the middle. Oliver Stone took the crew to a screening of saving private Ryan wanting the football action to match the brutality and chaos of Spielberg's deep date sequence.
Unknown Speaker (1:25:34): Well, he couldn't have done a worser job.
Whitey (1:25:37): Right. That if that's the if that's the if that's what he's going for Yeah. That is Steel Spielberg's Day, which will go down in the history as one of the great openings to any movie and and to the fact that veterans walked out because it was too realistic.
Will (1:25:54): If if that's if that fact is true, it's just evidence of the hubris that he carried at the time
Unknown Speaker (1:26:00): For sure.
Unknown Speaker (1:26:00): Going into this movie. Yep. Unreckled.
Whitey (1:26:03): Yeah. So the the Pacino speech was actually based on a real life speech. Marty Schottenheimer gave the Cleveland Browns before the nineteen eighty nine AFC championship game.
Unknown Speaker (1:26:14): Apparently, the ref in the last game is Schottenheimer.
Unknown Speaker (1:26:17): Oh, really? Yep. Oh, that's a good one.
Unknown Speaker (1:26:18): Sorry. Listen to this.
Whitey (1:26:19): Yeah. Bang. Done it. And Pacino modeled his character partly on the legendary dolphins coach, Don Schuller. So, yeah, deep in the research.
Unknown Speaker (1:26:31): Yeah.
Whitey (1:26:31): Al, deep in the research. Method. Anyone got any quotes for Quotables.
Unknown Speaker (1:26:40): Quotables. Don't know if I did. No.
Unknown Speaker (1:26:43): No. I don't.
Whitey (1:26:44): Okay. I've I've got one. Yeah. If you're gonna be a loser, raise your hand. If you're gonna act like a pussy, raise your hand.
Unknown Speaker (1:26:51): What the hell are you doing, Jay? Well, I just didn't want you to be the only pussy with your hand up, so I thought I'd help you out. That was
Unknown Speaker (1:27:01): a good one. Very funny. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (1:27:02): What about I thought he good at this.
Unknown Speaker (1:27:05): I thought he was good.
Unknown Speaker (1:27:05): This is Charc Levee. Coach, calm down. You're gonna have a stroke. I don't get strokes, motherfucker. I give them.
Whitey (1:27:17): And and then old Charlton walking out after meeting with Christina. I honestly believe that woman would eat her own young. Yeah. Fuck it. And then Jack Rose.
Whitey (1:27:30): It's like my ex wife. 21 different personalities and seven of them hated me. Fucking hell. So, anyway, that's about it. Very good.
Unknown Speaker (1:27:43): Yep. You got anything, Dan?
Unknown Speaker (1:27:45): No. No. No. That that were good. No.
Unknown Speaker (1:27:46): I enjoyed that.
Unknown Speaker (1:27:50): For Film
Whitey (1:27:55): f wits, or as I coined it last week, f school for fuckwits. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (1:28:02): I like that much better. F school for fuckwits.
Unknown Speaker (1:28:09): Was a complete accident. It was so funny,
Dan (1:28:11): I it. I like it. If we took, I really love sports movies. Some sports movies are, it's one of my favorite genres and it's definitely thrown up some excellent movies. Films like Warrior are a favored movie of mine, not just a sports genre movie.
Dan (1:28:27): So I thought tonight we would go back and do something we haven't done for quite a long time and have a quiz about sports movies. So, questions chosen entirely at random. First up, let's go with Will. Will, question number one, in Remember the Titans, what sport do they play? In Remember the Titans, what sport do they play?
Will (1:28:57): Believe that's American football.
Dan (1:28:59): That is 100% correct, Will. Well done.
Unknown Speaker (1:29:02): Thank you. Thank you, Mike.
Unknown Speaker (1:29:03): One for Will. Widey. This is a question with two parts.
Unknown Speaker (1:29:11): Of course it is.
Dan (1:29:12): In any given Sunday, what is the name of the veteran hard nosed defensive coordinator for the Miami Sharks who's constantly at odds with Oliver Stone's Modern Offensive style. And part two of that is when Willie Beamon changes a play in the huddle against the wishes of coach Damato, what specific bizarre food analogy does Damato use to describe the importance of team execution during their subsequent film room screaming match?
Whitey (1:29:45): Well, Jim is Jim Brown is the guy is the actor that
Unknown Speaker (1:29:49): He's the actor. Yeah. I need to know his name, please. Now everyone
Whitey (1:29:52): knows name, I've got no idea what food analogy they play, whether that the jumbulla has gotta have all the bits in and it all works together. I don't know.
Dan (1:30:03): Alright. Well, I can't I can't give you any points for that, but Jim Brown's character name is Montezuma Monroe and coach Samata compares the football team to a bowl of soup stating that if you don't have all the ingredients working together, you just have a wet useless mess or no soup.
Unknown Speaker (1:30:18): Okay.
Dan (1:30:19): Yeah. There we go. One nil Will. Alright. Round number two.
Dan (1:30:25): Will, in white men can't jump, what is the main sport Billy and Sydney use to hustle people for cash?
Unknown Speaker (1:30:36): I believe it's basketball.
Dan (1:30:40): Absolutely correct. That's two for Will.
Unknown Speaker (1:30:42): Good. You're too good. I know. You're too good. Let's stay with let's stay with in
Unknown Speaker (1:30:48): now. So
Dan (1:30:49): Let's stay with basketball, but a different film. We're going to go to blue chips with Nick Longnack Nolte as coach Pete Bell. So this question is two parts as well. Whitey, what are the names of the three blue chip prospects Coach Bell illegally buysrecruits to Western University? I'll give you a hint.
Dan (1:31:11): Two were played by real life NBA superstars.
Unknown Speaker (1:31:15): I know their names.
Unknown Speaker (1:31:16): Part two.
Unknown Speaker (1:31:17): I know their names.
Dan (1:31:18): No. I don't need the basketball name. Right? And then part two.
Unknown Speaker (1:31:21): Of course, we don't.
Dan (1:31:21): What specific luxury item or favor does the booster, the happy handshaker, buy for Neon Bordeaux's mother to secure his commitment?
Whitey (1:31:33): Okay. Well, one of them one of the guys is Neon Bordeaux.
Unknown Speaker (1:31:37): Very smart. Well played. There's two others. You can choose one.
Whitey (1:31:44): There's two there's two there's two black guys played by Anthony Hardaway and
Unknown Speaker (1:31:49): That's correct.
Whitey (1:31:49): Achille O'Neill. And then there's a guy that looks like debt left shrimp, a white guy. Right?
Unknown Speaker (1:31:55): Either Anthony's or they get the No. I
Unknown Speaker (1:32:00): don't know what their names are, and you're such a dick.
Unknown Speaker (1:32:02): Alright. But
Whitey (1:32:04): the the is it a car? Is it a car they give him?
Dan (1:32:08): No, look, you're absolutely incorrect on both. So I would have accepted Neil Bordeaux, which you got plus Bush McCray, who is Anthony Hardaway's character name or Ricky Rowe, who is the dead lep shrimp. And it was actually a brand new fully furnished three bedroom brick house and a tractor for Ricky's rose dad that the booster was getting. So disappointing you didn't get that. That's two for Will, zero for number three.
Dan (1:32:33): Now there'll be five rounds. You've got time to come back. Round number three. Four, will the workie? In the classic baseball movie, A League of Their Own, what famous four word phrase does Tom Hanks' character yell at Bittie Schram's character when she starts crying on the field?
Dan (1:32:52): Will.
Unknown Speaker (1:32:54): Big girls don't cry.
Unknown Speaker (1:32:56): Very close. I'll accept that. No. I will accept that. Actually They're crying.
Unknown Speaker (1:33:01): There's no crying in baseball.
Dan (1:33:02): There's nobody playing in baseball. Absolutely correct, Will. Well done. Wighty, let's stay with bull Durham. Wighty, this question is in two parts.
Dan (1:33:14): Wighty, Annie gives a famous opening monologue about her religion. What specific religion does she explicitly state she belongs to? And part two, Crash Davis passes a legendary milestone at the very end of the movie after being released by the Durham Bulls and signing with the Asherville tourists. What is the exact milestone and why is it bittersweet?
Whitey (1:33:42): Devi, You're such a dick. I I don't know either. So tell me. Annie would be like she'd be she'd be like a horasaurus or something.
Dan (1:33:55): Disappointing. It's very easy, this one. Part one, she states she belongs to the church of baseball. Oh, right. Then Crash Davis breaks the minor league record for career home runs, two forty seven.
Dan (1:34:08): And it's bittersweet because it's a record for staying in the minor leagues the longest and nobody commasurably cares about it. Yeah. So should have got that one. Will, that's three nil for you. Insomountable, but let's play it out to the end anyway.
Unknown Speaker (1:34:20): Yeah, let's do that.
Dan (1:34:22): Round four. We're going to talk about boxing in this one. Will, in Rocky III, what is the name of Mr. T's character who defeats Rocky to take his championship belt?
Unknown Speaker (1:34:33): Oh, I did this
Unknown Speaker (1:34:36): one too. What was Mr. T's name in it?
Unknown Speaker (1:34:48): Beautiful.
Unknown Speaker (1:34:49): Yeah. I know. I've
Unknown Speaker (1:34:51): Pee. I've got
Unknown Speaker (1:34:52): blanket on it. I don't know his name.
Dan (1:34:53): Just pause. We'll We'll come back to it. We'll come back to it. Whitey, let's go to your question. Also a Rocky question.
Dan (1:34:59): It's a question of two parts. In the 1976 original Rocky, what is the name of the pet shop where Adrian works and what are the names of the two turtles Rocky buys from her? And part two, what is the exact prize money offered to Rocky to fight Apollo Creed in the Bicentennial match? Go.
Whitey (1:35:19): Okay. The turtles are cuff and link.
Unknown Speaker (1:35:21): Excellent. Correct.
Whitey (1:35:24): I don't know the print shop. I'm gonna say this, like, fucking Philly's pets. And then and then the prize money is the prize money a $100,000, or is it $50,000 on that?
Unknown Speaker (1:35:39): You're absolutely absolutely incorrect. It's a $150,000. Oh, I was close.
Unknown Speaker (1:35:45): I said a 150.
Unknown Speaker (1:35:46): That's right. No. Not correct.
Unknown Speaker (1:35:48): And then Can I answer his one as well? Dan, miss Dan,
Unknown Speaker (1:35:50): can I can I interject? I I I've just I've had a good thing about it, and I would I'd like to now give my answers.
Unknown Speaker (1:35:56): Yeah. Please. Let's get back to yours. So, yeah, what's the name of Mr. D's character?
Unknown Speaker (1:36:00): Mr. D's rocky.
Unknown Speaker (1:36:01): The one and only Clubber Lang. Oh, so here we go again. Absolutely correct. There's been a message sent here.
Unknown Speaker (1:36:10): Absolutely correct.
Unknown Speaker (1:36:10): You, Will. We'll come back to you, Will. We'll send a message to him.
Dan (1:36:14): So that's that's for nil. Why are you getting a pizzling? All right. Last round. Let's do a hockey one for this one.
Dan (1:36:23): So question number one for Will. Will, in the Mighty Ducks, what is the signature unstoppable team formation they use to confuse the opposition in the mighty ducks?
Unknown Speaker (1:36:34): Well, I'm
Unknown Speaker (1:36:36): so glad you asked this because
Unknown Speaker (1:36:38): because you've texted me the answer to this one as well, you fuck wit. No. No. And This is bullshit. Oh, and this is just I want an investigation.
Unknown Speaker (1:36:49): No. Because I've come in I've come in
Unknown Speaker (1:36:51): just as prepared as coach Bombay did. Oh my god. Alright. And they came out with a flying V and it was a very effective formation.
Unknown Speaker (1:37:00): Oh, wow.
Dan (1:37:01): The perfect score, five out of five. Well done, Will the No Longer the Workie. Absolutely brilliant. Whitey, let's see if you can get one right. Whitey, in the 1977 hockey comedy masterpiece Slap Shot, part is a question of two parts.
Dan (1:37:20): Part one, what are the first names of all three Hansen brothers? And part two, what specific toy or item do the Hansen brothers bring to their hotel rooms on road trips that drives coach Reggie Dunbop, Paul Newman, completely insane? What are the names
Will (1:37:36): of three Hansen brothers? Taylor and Isaac, Taylor and Mike No.
Whitey (1:37:41): We're not talking about Mbops. Okay. Yeah. Larry, Curly, and Moe. Give you
Dan (1:37:46): the I'll give you two of the three and see if you can get the third. So Steve, Jeff, and one others, the Hansons.
Unknown Speaker (1:37:53): Oh, fuck. Don't know. Jack. Absolutely. That was correct.
Dan (1:38:03): Remembering it's a question of two parts. Part B, what was, what's the specific toy or item the handsome brothers bring to their hotel rooms?
Unknown Speaker (1:38:13): It was a blow up doll.
Dan (1:38:15): It was not a blow up doll. It was an electric racing slot car track layout that they assemble on their floor. I'm sorry. I can't give you a Trivia has not changed at all this time. Will the workie five zero in what's known as in the a shellacking?
Dan (1:38:32): Congratulations, gentlemen. Whitey, as usual, battling.
Whitey (1:38:36): Too too good for me. Well done, Will. Well done, Dan, the quiz master. Thanks, Dan. Quiz master general speaks and specs.
Whitey (1:38:43): Killing it. Kick ass credit song. Now we're sticking with Dan. Mate, what have you got for us tonight?
Dan (1:39:02): Well, this one is an homage to the great track that was written by Jamie Foxxin and performed by Jamie Foxxin, the film. We're still seeing this track to this day, so it's definitely carried over into popular culture. See if you can pick the star in our own lives that I've chosen to feature instead of Willie Beaman in the track. So sung to the tune of Stephen Willie Beaman, here we go. My name is Gal.
Dan (1:39:34): The G I got them baby teeth. Gleam in the trailer park is screaming. I love my missionary. No butt reaming. No style.
Dan (1:39:44): Profile. The g man got the ladies docile. Why? Getting down to the nitty gritty, making meat and potatoes rooting so damn pretty. Not shaking up the bedroom.
Dan (1:39:54): No muck to mouth. Drinking whiskey, getting frisky. Delivering that seven nice and rhythmically. Who is that rocking the g spot? It's the g man.
Unknown Speaker (1:40:02): Who is that keeping it hot? It's the g man. Who is that delivering the seven? It's the g man. Got the trailer.
Unknown Speaker (1:40:08): Screwed to heaven.
Unknown Speaker (1:40:09): Give it to me, G man. My name is Gao. The G man, root and tense is my game. Insane, you need a membrane, Gao. Swordsman, baby teeth, odd cunt.
Dan (1:40:19): Yeah. No.
Unknown Speaker (1:40:26): Oh my god, Daniel.
Unknown Speaker (1:40:29): That was good, man.
Whitey (1:40:30): Oh my god. Got those baby teeth. Cleaving.
Unknown Speaker (1:40:37): I love my missionary. No butt reaming.
Whitey (1:40:42): Mate, on the trip last week, I brought up meat potatoes, no mouth to minge, and the guys were losing it.
Unknown Speaker (1:40:51): Oh,
Unknown Speaker (1:40:55): gee, mate. You're an odd, odd gunk.
Unknown Speaker (1:40:58): Dear me. Wow. Oh, wow. Okay. Star of the show, Will.
Unknown Speaker (1:41:09): What do you got? Star of the show. Oh, I don't know. I don't feel like anyone deserves a star
Unknown Speaker (1:41:18): of the show next time. Fair enough. Yeah. I just I'll
Will (1:41:25): have to give it to someone. I'll give it to James Wood for being a like a just a
Unknown Speaker (1:41:29): Just a douchey doctor.
Unknown Speaker (1:41:30): Yeah. Just a douchey doctor, but he did it well.
Unknown Speaker (1:41:32): Okay. I like it. Yep. Dan, who you got?
Dan (1:41:35): I'm going to give it to John Wood for his excellent portrayal in Rafferty's Rules as the number one, was Rafferty himself. So yeah, I would, Will, look at I'm looking back at it and no one really stood out. It was, it was Jamie Foxx's kind of introduction introductory performance. So I'm gonna give it to him. He was definitely went on to bigger and better things.
Unknown Speaker (1:41:55): Yeah.
Whitey (1:41:56): God. This is odd. Real odd. I only give it to Al Pacino because he disappoints me so much with overacting that I think he's very low key in this movie. So he can do it.
Whitey (1:42:10): He can do it. He's more Michael Corleone than center for woman.
Unknown Speaker (1:42:14): Even the giggling gig after giggling.
Whitey (1:42:16): Oh, sorry. I forgot about the giggling. The no. He's out. Oh, it's I'm going Jamie Foxx.
Whitey (1:42:23): I'm going sorry. Thank you, Will. That's disgusting, the giggling. Jamie Foxx. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (1:42:28): Yeah.
Whitey (1:42:32): The rank bank. Now happy to hear your feedback here, but here's what I've come up with. Shit tasting jumbel eyes, supportive wives, Barbara Bushes, dodgy doctors, gladiators of their time, ghosts on the wall, and nervous spews. Anyone good at anything?
Unknown Speaker (1:42:59): I like I like front on fouries.
Whitey (1:43:04): Yeah. Front on fouries.
Unknown Speaker (1:43:05): Yeah. I mean, we could just call it big black cocks. Big black cocks. Yeah.
Whitey (1:43:17): We're not doing front on Forys. Why? Because because we won't have any idea what that is. It's gotta have some semblance.
Unknown Speaker (1:43:26): What about what about Purps' favorite movie?
Whitey (1:43:32): What? With how many Purps' favorite movies?
Unknown Speaker (1:43:36): How many Purps' favorite movies? How about how many? One one for Purps.
Whitey (1:43:45): What about oh, you know what? Fuck it. Full frontal fouries.
Unknown Speaker (1:43:50): Excellent. Thank you.
Unknown Speaker (1:43:52): We're going with full frontal fouries. It's in eight
Will (1:43:58): weeks time we have to ask. It's done its job.
Unknown Speaker (1:44:01): It's done
Unknown Speaker (1:44:01): its job. Looking. Yeah. Yeah. Alright.
Unknown Speaker (1:44:05): Oh, dear me. Full front frontal forays. It's good.
Whitey (1:44:11): It's a hell of a foray. I'll give you the tip. Will? Yeah. How many full frontal forays are you giving any given Sunday?
Will (1:44:22): I'm giving a 2.9.
Unknown Speaker (1:44:25): 2.9. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I like it.
Unknown Speaker (1:44:30): I like it.
Unknown Speaker (1:44:32): Yeah.
Whitey (1:44:33): Dan, how many full frontal fouries for any given Sunday?
Dan (1:44:37): Yeah. It's a it's a three for me just because I've it served me fondly in the past. On this viewing, it was a it was definitely a struggle to get through all the two and a half hours, but it has been a staple for me for many years. Probably going to condo it, to be honest. I think that's probably my last experience with any given Sunday.
Dan (1:44:56): So thank you, Oliver Stone. Yeah. Don't need you anymore in my life with that particular go. You've done way better films.
Whitey (1:45:04): Wow. I 2.75 full frontal forays for me. Yeah. Too erratic. Too erratic for me.
Whitey (1:45:16): The editing was so bad, and I'm a massive Oliver Stone fan. I just think this is not this is not one of his good movies. Like No. Yeah. I I think it is too long.
Whitey (1:45:26): It's too erratic. It's I'm with you. I don't think I'll watch this movie again. I think I'm done with any given Sunday. I'll much prefer to watch steaming Matty Gman.
Unknown Speaker (1:45:38): But but yeah. And you know what?
Will (1:45:41): I was actually really looking forward to watching this. Well, hey. I like, you listened to last week's pod. Right? Yeah.
Will (1:45:47): I I listened to last week's pod a few days ago, but I stopped listening up till about the last twenty minutes and then it accidentally started again today. And it just so happened because the podcast finished and then came on with the the bloody Hail Mary project one. And right at the moment, you'd said we were talking about how we're gonna be doing any given Sunday, and you were giving it a big old rat.
Unknown Speaker (1:46:14): Mate, I love a sports movie.
Unknown Speaker (1:46:16): Same. I've I've always loved this movie. Yeah. I I definitely
Whitey (1:46:21): I I I look. I I honestly, I say this all the time that the way I watch movies has changed so much over the last four years because of this podcast. Right? And some of them I just don't enjoy anymore because I'm I'm looking at it from a critical perspective.
Unknown Speaker (1:46:34): Like, first blood. Particular
Unknown Speaker (1:46:35): Like like,
Whitey (1:46:36): You fucked that one up. Right?
Unknown Speaker (1:46:39): But I can see it.
Whitey (1:46:41): But this one with 2.88. Oh. Full frontal fouries.
Dan (1:46:53): That one is that top one fifty? Wow.
Whitey (1:46:55): It is sitting on its own in position one seven one. Wow. Just below 2.92 gung ho iguanas, which is another movie you've done, Will.
Unknown Speaker (1:47:13): Oh, that
Unknown Speaker (1:47:14): oh, yeah. The Last Starfighter. Sick.
Unknown Speaker (1:47:16): Oh, wow.
Whitey (1:47:17): And 2.92 chilled monkey brains.
Unknown Speaker (1:47:22): The Temple of Doom.
Whitey (1:47:23): Temple of Doom. And just above on 2.831 eyed willies, Goonies.
Unknown Speaker (1:47:33): No. No. That doesn't deserve to be
Whitey (1:47:34): that what? In hindsight, it doesn't deserve to be that low.
Unknown Speaker (1:47:37): Mate, Goonies hold such a special place.
Unknown Speaker (1:47:39): We we were harsh on you. That was an early one. Yeah. We were harsh on it.
Unknown Speaker (1:47:43): I tried to watch that with with my kids not long ago, and they didn't get into it at all.
Whitey (1:47:48): Yeah. Yeah. I think it's a bit slow for kids nowadays. It's a bit slow. Two point o three Sorry.
Dan (1:47:55): Before you move on, kids movies, my kids went and saw Toy Story five. Yes. Thoroughly enjoyed it, but the best bit for me is that Fisher has a cameo as an Aussie garden gnome. Really? Unbelievable.
Dan (1:48:11): Can you not love that guy? Like he just is unapologetically him with his ridiculous hair and his big choppers, and now he's in a Toy Story movie. What all hail Paul Fisher.
Unknown Speaker (1:48:22): Yeah. He's essentially scaled the
Unknown Speaker (1:48:26): Yeah. He's done he's basically He's done it.
Unknown Speaker (1:48:28): He's well done. He's just.
Whitey (1:48:30): Alright. 2.83 CTFOs for Behind Enemy Lines and 2.83 Psycho Hoes Beasts.
Unknown Speaker (1:48:39): Psycho Hoes Beasts.
Whitey (1:48:40): Wayne's World. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. One seven one for any given Sunday, and I truly believe it's where it should be.
Unknown Speaker (1:48:51): Now next week
Unknown Speaker (1:48:52): Don't disagree.
Whitey (1:48:53): Yep. Next week, we are we got another guest from across the dutch for the the crow.
Unknown Speaker (1:49:03): Oh, yeah.
Unknown Speaker (1:49:03): Oh, Brandon Light. Yeah.
Whitey (1:49:06): Directed by Australian Alex Proyas.
Unknown Speaker (1:49:09): Yeah.
Whitey (1:49:11): And, obviously, very traumatic and sad things happened on that set with the with the death of Brandon Lee. So and not only that, putting him on notice now, but Strangles will be doing the kick ass credit song for the crowd.
Unknown Speaker (1:49:26): Oh, well, he's amiso.
Unknown Speaker (1:49:29): You seem to
Unknown Speaker (1:49:29): work for him. Yeah.
Whitey (1:49:30): We do. It's a it's a high bar. Will's little sundress song for Forrest Gump was a very good
Unknown Speaker (1:49:39): Thank you.
Whitey (1:49:40): Foray into not foray, foray into kick ass. So next week, it's the crow. Now do your homework. A great movie from the nineties. Got a really good soundtrack.
Whitey (1:49:54): I've not seen this, I reckon, for twenty five years.
Unknown Speaker (1:49:59): Yeah. I I can't remember the last time I saw it. That's definitely would be fun to check out.
Whitey (1:50:04): Yeah. So it will be very interesting to see if it still holds up. Now, Chopper's just for you. I know you're still listening. The Warriors is coming as the next movie after Lethal Weapon two.
Unknown Speaker (1:50:15): Wow. So
Whitey (1:50:16): the Warriors will be done. They will come out to play. I
Unknown Speaker (1:50:20): Warrior.
Whitey (1:50:21): Be amazing. Will, thanks again. Thank you, man. Legend. Morgz, well done.
Unknown Speaker (1:50:28): Peace out.
Whitey (1:50:28): Nice for nice for dialing it in for another week. I appreciate it.
Unknown Speaker (1:50:32): No problem.
Whitey (1:50:33): Kick ass credit song. People, do your homework. The crow next week. Be there Wednesday. Bye for now.
Speaker 6 (1:50:39): My name is Gal, the g man. I got them baby teeth gleaming the trailer park and screaming. I love my missionary no but reaming. My name is Gal, the g man. I got the baby teeth.
Speaker 6 (1:50:53): Gleaming the trailer park hard. It's screaming. I love my missionary no but reaming. No style, profile. The g man got the ladies docile.
Unknown Speaker (1:51:04): Why? Getting down to the nitty gritty, making me potato rooting so damn pretty. Not shaking up the bedroom, moot to mouth, drinking whiskey, getting frisky, delivering that seven nights in every plea. Who was that rocking the g spot? It's the g man.
Unknown Speaker (1:51:18): Who was that keeping it high? It's the g man. Who was that delivering the seven? It's the g man. Got the trailer park screaming to heaven.
Speaker 6 (1:51:25): Give it to me g man. My name is Gal, the g man. I got the baby teeth gleaming. The trailer park is screaming. I love my missionary no butt breathing.
Unknown Speaker (1:51:38): My name is Gal, the g man. I got the baby teeth gleaming. The trailer parkour is screaming. I love my missionary, no but g man. My name is the g man.
Unknown Speaker (1:51:50): Rootin' tins is my game and saying in the membrane, go swordsman,
Will "The Worky"
The youngest member of the Born to Watch family, with an entire decade separating him from the old blokes he calls mates, Will "The Worky" somehow manages to keep the boys young while making them feel ancient.
By trade, Will is a plumber and owner of WPH Plumbing, but those who know him best understand that his true passion is hot water systems. Some men simply install them. Will loves them. His unhealthy obsession with all things hot water has become the stuff of legend, and there are whispers that he knows the serial numbers of his favourites by heart.
When he's not saving households from cold showers and plumbing disasters, you'll find him chasing waves. A keen surfer with salt water in his veins, Will is equally at home in the ocean as he is under a house. Although he'd probably tell you both are preferable to listening to Whitey explain another 80s action movie ranking.
Despite being the youngest member of the crew, Will's stories are legendary, none more so than the tales of his father and his lifelong love affair with martial arts. Whether it's karate, kung fu, or another unbelievable yarn from his family archives, these stories have become cherished moments amongst the Born to Watch faithful and are often as entertaining as the movies themselves.
Will brings a fresh perspective to the show. He doesn't care much for film school theories or artsy symbolism. He just wants to know if the movie is any good, if the action delivers, and if it's worthy of a re… Read More

